(04-25-2022, 02:38 PM)robkelk Wrote: Which means that Yuuno cannot force Saber to teleport, since his rank in the spell is B+ and she can ignore all magic that's less than rank A. He can, however, catch her in a Struggle Bind.
I feel it should be stated clearly that this does not mean that Saber can automatically no-sale a less powerful spell - that an actual, conscious effort is required. Albeit not much of one, but it would still require that one pays attention to their surroundings.
(04-25-2022, 02:38 PM)robkelk Wrote: Particular cases: The Clow Cards weren't True Magic, but the Sakura Cards are. True Sight is not, but Glam Sight is. Moon Spiral Heart Attack isn't, but a Ginzuishou effect is. Starlight Breaker usually isn't, unless Nanoha is pouring her heart into the spell (as she did at the end of StrikerS).
Hue-hue-hue-hue... Get ready to shit your pants.
That wasn't a Starlight Breaker back there.
That was a Devine Buster.
Albeit, a very much powered up version of the spell, but still. The thing is, the reason Starlight Breaker is so powerful is because it doesn't rely on its caster for all of its power. Instead, it recycles residual magical energy in the area leftover from spells that had been recently discharged in the area. This is why whenever you fight Nanoha, you're in a race against the clock. Because the more magical spells get tossed around, then the more powerful Starlight Breaker will be once Nanoha decides that enough is enough. (This is also why it was always a challenge for her to go up against Fate - because speed is Fate's trademark.)
At that time in StrikerS, Nanoha wasn't able to use SB because being that deep inside of the Saint's Cradle, with it's uber-power internal anti-magic fields (a measure to protect the Belkan Saint King and the royal family), there was no way to properly power-up the spell.
In short, that was 110% Nanoha Takamachi right there and then.
Also keep in mind: technically, Nanoha's linker core is crippled during the timeframe of StrikerS. It was a permanent injury that she suffered off-screen during what was called "The Gadget Drone Incident". In other words, that Devine Buster at the end of StrikerS is not even the full potential of what she had in her youth. And this crippling injury will not be occurring in TNB.
The only person in the Ben's group that will truly be able to overpower Nanoha will be Hotaru.... And maybe Hayate. And only if either of them don't care about the collateral damage.
(04-25-2022, 03:33 PM)Bob Schroeck Wrote: It sounds like reasonable start. Feel free to use the Unified Theory of Magic from my works if it makes things easier or consistent.
You'll have to refresh my memory on how that one works. Isn't it similar to AdmiralTigerCla's interpretation in Sleeping with the Girls?