(11-20-2022, 05:35 AM)Umbire Wrote:(11-20-2022, 02:12 AM)GethN7 Wrote: Ah, this old chestnut.
https://allthetropes.org/w/index.php?tit...wou541fxvo
I left a pretty firm reply on that I believe sums up the ATT position on the matter directly under it.
In fact, to springboard off this, I'm thinking again about how of the many users we've had to actively ban from here, several of them were the sort to take a "blackjack and hookers" approach to the prospect of either being banned from TVTropes or else splitting from it, and - by all appearances - only resented TVT's adminship (which was indeed corrupt at the time) and cooperated with ATT insofar as the former's adminship prevented them from pursuing their own self-interested goals at either wiki's expense.
This is something I feel I've seen play out quite a handful of times - the Complete Monster fiasco that was dragged over here and most "sides" directly involved in it, the recent fetish tropers (who it must be said, have a monomaniacal focus on said fetish that is infinitely more cause for concern than the fetish itself), the other editors banned for being unable to let go of ideological bents... it's bothersome, to the point I wonder sometimes if there isn't some Original Sin-type nonsense at play.
The thing is, basically, that we split not just because personal desires were being constrained, we split over actual, well-defined principles that were communally agreed on, and we promised to make sure no one person's agenda could or would disrupt what we all consented to as our common guidelines due to said split. Those who can submit their interests in subordination towards our betterment are forever welcome. Those who simply want us to give them free reign to do as they please at the expense of the harmony and communal consent of the rest of us, well, they can leave with all due haste, either of their own free will or involuntarily, should it regretfully come to that.