2024 Election - Thread #1

[nemonowan]

So the above article is my response to Geth's entire post here, along with the phrase "oh you sweet summer child."  A minority backed by a military, weakened democratic norms, and a level of legitimacy can absolutely take over – and have done so historically.  The democratic norms have already been weakened by the Supreme Court ruling that the President can't be prosecuted for any official action.  People are already expecting violence post-election, what if that violence becomes the excuse for a crackdown?  "One really violent day" of policing could come next.

The point is that you never elect a candidate unless you think they will give the power back.  Unless you want to be in a dictatorship.  If you want to live in a fascist country, by all means vote for Trump.  If making more money is more important to you than living in a democracy, vote for Trump.  But don't be surprised when the hammer swings for you.

 
Thom Hartmann wrote here a preemptive letter with a good scenario of what could perfectely well happen:

31 October 2025
Leavenworth, Kansas

Dear Louise,
It’s been almost a year since the last time I saw you, as they were arresting me on the “designated enemy within” sedition charge that’s kept me in this prison. If the underground network here succeeds, you should get this letter within a few weeks; it’s the third I’ve written you that got out of the prison, but I understand the first two couriers were busted for carrying contraband mail and are now in prison themselves.

The day after President Trump was re-elected (when Speaker Johnson and then the Supreme Court recognized the disputed ballots in five states and threw the election to the House of Representatives), you’ll recall, he invoked the Insurrection Act and began the mass arrests. They tell me Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, and Merrick Garland are in here, too, although I haven’t seen them; apparently the “high value” former administration officials are locked down in a separate wing.

I’ve been following the news as best I can, and it appears that the initial news reports from January detailing the thousands of people killed and injured by police and the Army in the nationwide demonstrations have largely vanished. One of the guards who has access to the web says all the stories have been scrubbed since Trump put Elon Musk in charge of the internet: it’s as if it never happened.
Part of that is probably because of the updated and retroactive Alien and Sedition Act Congress passed in Trump’s first week, and their “Truth Act” rolling back the Supreme Court’s Times v Sullivan ruling so public officials including the president can now sue for libel.

Following Viktor Orbán’s script from Hungary, Trump and several of his senior officials launched both civil and criminal prosecutions for things reporters and commentators had previously said about them, resulting in over a thousand reporters and several dozen publications being run into jail or bankruptcy.
Others — like me, Mary Trump, Heather Cox Richardson, Dean Obeidallah, Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Joy Reid, and Timothy Snyder — were charged with “impugning the character of officials of the United States” and are sitting in federal prison right now. I guess we knew it was coming.

All those lawsuits and criminal charges destroyed the value of most media operations; it was a great opportunity for Trump’s billionaire friends to buy up most of America’s media just like Orbán’s buddies did a decade ago in Hungary. NBC, MSNBC, and The New York Times are now owned by the Murdoch family; CNN and CBS both went to Elon Musk; and ABC is now the property of Steve Bannon, who — like when Elon Musk bought Twitter with Saudi money — was bought from Disney with Middle Eastern oil money in a deal organized by Secretary of State Jared Kushner.

It was just a few years ago when Orbán spoke at CPAC in Texas and proposed — to a standing ovation — that Republicans should change the libel laws to put “liberals” in the media out of business: they were clearly paying attention. Now, just like in Hungary, China, Saudi Arabia, and Russia, all of the media spends all their time praising the wisdom and accomplishments of President Trump and Vice President Vance.
Now that Environment Czar Ron DeSantis has outlawed any news reporting on climate change that “may cast aspersions on the critical fossil fuel industry,” I’m not hearing much about deaths from wildfires, floods, drought, etc., although I’m guessing the situation has been getting worse? I suppose the good news for me and my fellow incarcerated reporters, writers, and politicians is that the prison here in Leavenworth, Kansas has easily survived several tornadoes and derechos: the climate crisis seems far away.

I hear Attorney General Stephen Miller has been busy arresting women all across the country. I remember in July of 2023 when 19 Republican attorneys general demanded private medical records of all women in their states who’d gotten abortions; now that the Supreme Court has ruled in their favor, I’m hearing the three largest private prison companies each got multi-billion-dollar contracts to build new prisons for those women who continue protesting by possessing birth control or wearing the outlawed “pussy” hats.

As Speaker Johnson said, echoing Trump’s logic in tearing children from their parents at the Southern border (now he just shoots them), “If we don’t jail a few of these women persisting in getting abortions, nobody will take us seriously.” And, of course, there are many more women being arrested for illegally possessing birth control pills and IUDs now that they’ve both been declared abortifacients and thus illegal. I understand the protests have largely gone underground since the new Sedition Act forbids public demonstrations and Defense Secretary Michael Flynn’s soldiers are using live ammo?

Next week is election day for the 2025 off-years, although at least 48 million fewer people will be voting since the Democratic Party was declared a criminally seditious organization under the Patriot Act and everybody who’d been registered as a Democrat lost their right to vote for ten years or until they’d successfully completed a re-education course. Another brilliant idea from Putin and Orbán, although President John Adams had nearly done the same thing in 1798.

Talking with other prisoners here, the most common thing I’m hearing is how surprised everybody was at how quickly General Flynn had been at deploying the military when crowds began showing up on inauguration day after Trump issued those blanket pardons to himself and the January 6th rioters.
He was able to use the military — with live ammunition — to “keep the peace,” of course, because Trump, following Project 2025, had “decapitated” the leadership of both the Civil Service and our military, replacing the nation’s top officers with those who’d passed his loyalty test so he wouldn’t be frustrated again by “socialists” like General Mark Milley (who’s now in a cell just down the block from me).

I hope you’re doing okay financially, since they seized all our savings. I understand your Social Security payment has dropped about 25 percent since JPMorgan took over the program? At least for now you can ignore paying taxes on the money, since Congress defunded the IRS.

And I’m hoping you were able to find a decent Medicare Advantage program, now that they’ve shut down traditional Medicare altogether? My cellmate tells me that now that the Advantage programs are the only game in town, they’ve begun charging over twelve thousand dollars a year for them — about the same as regular health insurance — and they’re getting even more aggressive at denying payment for claims. Please keep eating well and exercising: you need to stay healthy, since they no longer cover pre-existing conditions.

How are our grandkids? I know Texas and Florida shut down all their public schools just before the new school year started, giving the money instead to churches so every child can have a religious education, but haven’t heard that Oregon has yet gone down that road. I hear rumors the Trump administration is going to put into place a nationwide voucher system now that the Supreme Court has ruled that America is, in fact, a “Christian nation” and every child is entitled to a “Christian education.”

I was so saddened to hear that when Trump, Speaker Johnson, and Majority Leader Josh Hawley cut off all US aid to Ukraine that country’s government collapsed, and the Russians slaughtered hundreds of thousands suspected of collaborating with the Zelenskyy administration. When Russian forces entered Poland, I fully expected a NATO response, but I hear that since Trump pulled us out of NATO the European members are afraid to antagonize Putin. Now that parts of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia are gone, and the Finnish border was breached, it’s going to be tough going for democratic Europe.

Republicans in Congress appear, from what I hear, quite happy with the new US alignment with Russia and rejection of our former European alliances (except Hungary).

At least Taiwan won’t be a flashpoint for a war now that Secretary of State Kushner and his wife have negotiated a peace between them and China. I understand it’s modeled after the Hong Kong transition, which has many in Taiwan worried, but the Chinese forces backed up by the US fleet in the region — and North Korea’s new treaty with the US — seem to be keeping unrest there to a minimum.

Are ICE and the Border Patrol still using live ammunition to enforce the border? The story I heard through the grapevine here was that after about a week of the Rio Grande running red with blood, most asylum seekers abandoned their efforts and are staying in Mexico. Secretary Kushner brought in Saudi officials to explain to Congress how they’ve been using live ammunition to protect their borders for years, killing people regularly, and that it’s “good target practice” to keep our troops’ training in tip-top shape.
And have any of our friends been rounded up in the mass detentions? I’ve heard that they’re still kicking in doors looking for people who can’t prove their citizenship when its demanded. I hope you’ve kept your passport up-to-date; at least your name sounds European and you’re white.

While those of us convicted under the 2024 updates to the libel and sedition laws and the new “enemy within” provisions of the updated Patriot Act are considered “enemy combatants” and thus not entitled to constitutional protections and things like mail privileges, I hear they may let us have one zoom call with family on Christmas (now that it’s a “mandatory holiday”). The week after next is our 54th wedding anniversary; I miss you, and hope you get this note before our Christmas call!

Sending you, our kids, and our grandkids all my love…

— Thom