Sometimes silly edits become active editors, if it's not active vandalism, it might be worth welcoming the user.
Rob threw me a technical issue on his talk page, which was that Doug (who is definitely no longer a global steward, btw) wanted us to turn on a variable related to Visual Editor, $wgVisualEditorEnableWikitext. What does it do, even? Well, if you look at the extension doc page, using it does the "wikitext mode". If you search the other end of the page, you find out that "wikitext mode" enables 'the so-called "2017 wikitext editor".' Now, you have to resort to a site search to find out what this 'so-called' feature is... okay it's on a page called 2017 wikitext editor which basically a new frontend for wikitext. There's a way to hook in a syntax highlighter. Some gadgets don't work with this, but they probably do by now if they were developed for wikipedia.
So like, when is VE going to be ready for production? There are two answers to that that come to me right away, the first is that it's been in prod at Wikipedia for years now. The second is that there's a big "page under construction" banner at the top of the documentation page for how to configure the thing, that's been there like 5 years (or, more, that's when I got bored of looking at page history). The banner seems justified.
So, Doug mentioned this to us because it's his default editor in global settings, and because we don't have his default editor loaded, it breaks for him.
Also, Discussion Tools is the thing that most folks are substituting for Flow, even though they're rather different in page model and so on. They're kinda cool. You can see them in action over here, you get the Reply button and the Subscribe button and all. This requires Visual Editor. But right now, we only have that enabled in User talk NS.
Also, I honestly have no idea what you guys were complaining about when you wanted to disable VisualEditor. It didn't affect me, so I didn't say much. I can't find any edits that were screwed up by this, though I did find this old thing in the Moderation log... was that normal? What was normal. Could things be fixed now? I honestly couldn't say.
I think we could get away with disabling VE entirely from our last namespaces. Or we could try DiscussionTools on the talk namespaces, and re-enable VE there. Or we could try VE in general again? Or we could use their wikicode source editor like Doug wanted... or not. So I actually do not know what to do here, or even what to complain about, so I'm throwing this back to Rob to decide.
Mostly unrelated: I made a ticket to delete the Topic namespace, because Flow is never coming back, and unlike other NSes the delete button is conspicuously missing. There's no content remaining there, and if there was, the software wouldn't let us read it anyway.
Rob threw me a technical issue on his talk page, which was that Doug (who is definitely no longer a global steward, btw) wanted us to turn on a variable related to Visual Editor, $wgVisualEditorEnableWikitext. What does it do, even? Well, if you look at the extension doc page, using it does the "wikitext mode". If you search the other end of the page, you find out that "wikitext mode" enables 'the so-called "2017 wikitext editor".' Now, you have to resort to a site search to find out what this 'so-called' feature is... okay it's on a page called 2017 wikitext editor which basically a new frontend for wikitext. There's a way to hook in a syntax highlighter. Some gadgets don't work with this, but they probably do by now if they were developed for wikipedia.
So like, when is VE going to be ready for production? There are two answers to that that come to me right away, the first is that it's been in prod at Wikipedia for years now. The second is that there's a big "page under construction" banner at the top of the documentation page for how to configure the thing, that's been there like 5 years (or, more, that's when I got bored of looking at page history). The banner seems justified.
So, Doug mentioned this to us because it's his default editor in global settings, and because we don't have his default editor loaded, it breaks for him.
Also, Discussion Tools is the thing that most folks are substituting for Flow, even though they're rather different in page model and so on. They're kinda cool. You can see them in action over here, you get the Reply button and the Subscribe button and all. This requires Visual Editor. But right now, we only have that enabled in User talk NS.
Also, I honestly have no idea what you guys were complaining about when you wanted to disable VisualEditor. It didn't affect me, so I didn't say much. I can't find any edits that were screwed up by this, though I did find this old thing in the Moderation log... was that normal? What was normal. Could things be fixed now? I honestly couldn't say.
I think we could get away with disabling VE entirely from our last namespaces. Or we could try DiscussionTools on the talk namespaces, and re-enable VE there. Or we could try VE in general again? Or we could use their wikicode source editor like Doug wanted... or not. So I actually do not know what to do here, or even what to complain about, so I'm throwing this back to Rob to decide.
Mostly unrelated: I made a ticket to delete the Topic namespace, because Flow is never coming back, and unlike other NSes the delete button is conspicuously missing. There's no content remaining there, and if there was, the software wouldn't let us read it anyway.
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