I Think It's Time I Walked Quietly Away from TVTropes

[Morganite]

I didn't want to keep bumping the thread, but since the topic won't go away...

I don't think we've got any rules about talking about things anyway. '.'

Wait, you're allowed to protest?  I didn't know.  Virtually all of the threads in the P5 forum say "P5 Only", which I can only assume means I'll get a ban if I post in there.  No, really -- what other consquences would there be?

I don't think it gets a ban unless someone does it repeatedly. It's definitely not a one-strike-you're out thing.

Mind you, you can't judge the process just by looking at the current thread list. A lot of threads seem to go through a "feedback request" phase, and then after a varying amount of time go into the "P5 only" phase, and that's usually where they are once a decision is made and they get locked. But it seems like most of the action is happening in the "About Content Violations Discussions" thread. Protests there seem to be at least looked at as long as you're not a jerk about it. I'm pretty sure you'd be fine bringing something up about a P5 only thread in there too, although I haven't tried it myself due to not being familiar with any of the items that I've seen with running threads. (Although given the reason why the Baldr Sky thread is currently locked, I'd be really careful if you've got anything to say about that one.)

There's really a strong case of what tropers would call ValuesDissonance between Japanese and Western works.  It turns out that teenagers have sex with each other.  It's not pedophilia, it's a representation of real life.

Well, that sort of ties into part of what's making things complicated - they tried to start doing this process before they defined exactly what the rules for things were going to be. So things got messy. What seems to be the current standard doesn't look like it should condemn teenagers having sex in most cases. Most of the issues seem to be around works where (at least to some viewers) characters look like preteens, whether they're actually supposed to be or not. (I think I can safely say that if anyone reported Evangelion, it'd be declared okay without even going through the voting process.)

(The reference removing thing is an example of this too, actually. Some people got overzealous and started stripping things out, but there's no official policy on it yet. (I think I may even have seen a panel member saying it was a bad idea somewhere, although I can't find the post now.)

The hard part would be getting enough of the community to jump ship and support the new project.  It's a large community with a large set of material to maintain.  Unless there is some way to convince editors to join another project -- and someone willing to spearhead the project -- there's not much point in even attempting a fork of the wiki.

Yeah, this is really the big thing. A wiki is it's people.

I don't want anyone to get me wrong about the whole situation. I think this whole deal is barking up the wrong forest. And I think it's a good idea to try and preserve material that does get cut. But until and unless there is a fork that seems like it's going to actually go somewhere, I'm going to focus on trying to save whatever I can.

On the other hand, if you really want the page deleted, all you have to do is make Bubblegum Pink: Raging Fires a canon part of DW2 for a week or so.

Heh. I don't think that would actually work though. It'd still have way too much not-sex to qualify.

-Morgan.