All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part III

[GethN7]

A couple more places that I think ought to hear the message about TVT's problems and ATT's existance in response to those problems would be SpaceBattles and its spinoff site, Sufficient Velocity (more specifically, their creative writing-related sections). SpaceBattles recently reinstated registration (they had to take it down for a couple of months due to an annoyingly persistent spammer, but that problem now seems to have been dealt with--knock on wood!), so that shouldn't be a problem. Besides, every so often someone would post a thread related to TVT, so I figured that they should hear about TVT's copyright issues and how ATT won't do anything like that!

If you want to get people interested in ATT, use it (gotta eat our own lunch if we want anyone else to) and talk about how good it is. Save the trash talk of other tropes sites for Something Awful.

IMHO, of course.

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EDIT:
Refresh my memory, please...

Looking at http://allthetropes.orain.org/wiki/Special:WantedPages, I see dozens if not hundreds of pages that could be filled by copying a description from Wikipedia and building the list of tropes or works from the pages that link to the wanted pages. Would doing so be legal? Would it be a good idea?

 

Rob, not only is it legal, I do just that all the time:

http://allthetropes.orain.org/w/index. ... on=history

It's a major advantage we have over TV Tropes. As long we attribute the source in a reasonable manner (citing the source URL bare minimum in the edit reasons or in a commented out note on the page, though I prefer the former), we fulfill the attribution clause of CC BY SA. Since we use the CC BY SA 4.0 license (which is backwards compatible with CC BY SA 3.0), we also fulfill the Share Alike clause.

We can use Wikipedia content as a base for a page (in whole or in part, so long as we cite the source), then tropify it.

As to the matter of trash talking them, the Fuck No TV Tropes Tumblr does a far better job of that then we have to. In fact, TVT loyalists are currently writhing in agony over whether the page they have on that blog deserves to live, knowing they are damned if they keep it (it violates the no negativity rules and promotes the dissing of Fast Eddie's Glorious People's Republic of Troping), and damned if they delete it (as it will just confirm the public perception they cannot tolerate criticism). In fact, they are damned even if the page is locked, since that means they get the worst of both outcomes.

They also realize now that Google can be used against them by anyone who stumble across an offending page, and they are powerless to prevent or reverse it due to Fast Eddie's desire to prostitute the site for ad money.

Basically, my plan is just be quietly amused they are in pawn to their own lousy PR and Fast Eddie's apparent greed and continue working on making ATT a much more worthy successor to the very Broken Pedestal that preceded it.