[Um. How to say this without coming off as a stubborn, willfully ignorant jackass (which I *am*, but that doesn't mean I want to advertise as such) . . . If the violence isn't the point, why is there so much of it? I mean, yes, granted violence is rarely simply about the violence, but it's saying *something*, either allegorically or symbollically. My impression is that by winning, Doug's position is being reinforced. You know: trial by combat. If this is not the case, then why the consistent wins and the showcasing, as it were, of such?]
First off, it isn't a BGC universe if there isn't violence - that's part of the whole "dark, cyberpunk future with rampaging boomers" genre
Second, yes, Doug does do a lot of fighting and "winning", but it's all part of the setup to the dual-error of his ways: a) the boomers are (by his definition) "sentient", and thus should be helped and not dismantled; and b) Hexe smacks him down by pointing out that his actions against the sabers were ultimately a really stupid thing to do and that he had a real bad case of testostorone poisoning.
[Nene had an ARC? Okay, that totally blew past me. I guess I haven't been paying enough attention, darn it.]
Yes, and it's a rather important one - go back and re-read, paying attention to Nene's thoughts, words and actions. You will hopefully understand.
[Though I can't really prove it, I've always seen Sylia as having a grand MASTER PLAN. It's slow, subtle, but devastating. I like to think of her sitting in a darkened room, stroking a white cat and having a good maniacal laugh to herself.]
She may have one, but part of that plan has always (IMHO) been to ignore the issue of boomer sentiencein a supreme act of cognitive dissonence. She knows that there's more to boomers than what's publicly stated, but to acknowledge it would require her to make a decision about it, and she just doesn't want to...
[Surely he must have enjoyed it a little? C'mon, admit it, he enjoyed unleashing that ol' rightous fury, going old testament on the knight sabers, right? Just a little? C'mon.]
Oh, he did - just look at his attitude. But when it was all over, his CO chewed him several new orifices and kicked his attitude halfway back to his home dimension. Haven't you ever done something that you enjoyed while doing it, and then got reamed for it afterwards?
[I can only plead ignorance on that part. To me, he seems pretty darn invincible. And given how fricking mobile and FAST (superluminal? That's fast. That's faster than fast.) how anything could be out of his range is quite hard to believe.]
Yes, he can be that fast, but only when using a specific song. And when he does that, he doesn't have a lot of the other options that might be a bit more useful to the situation. Remember, Doug's powers may be nearly infinitely varied, but not all at once.
[Oh, well, I guess if you hit him with an orbital laser platform or a really long shot . . . but that's not very dramatic, is it? I'm reminded that it took a couple nukes to take out Twister, and even then it only got a couple of his limbs. And he grew them back. Ah, well, let me mull this over and get back to you.]
I can't speak for Bob, but I expect that if hit by the orbitl laser system, Doug would be vaporized. His field can stop a lot of stuff, but that's pushing it a bit far. Of course, Doug really isn't in the same league as Twister, power-wise. 99.99% of the time Twister would probably mop the floor with Doug in a 1-on-1. The other time would be a lucky choice of song for Doug that would get in a lucky shot...
[satisfy? I guess . . . I still think that Doug needs a bit more "believable" conflict, some more defeats that aren't so emotional, to make this a better work. As it is, it's too damn easy for him. But thanks for the response.]
Not exactly sure what you're looking for here, and I can't really answer it anyway since I'm not the author. But if you're looking to see Doug "lose" big time, all I can say is that I'm a pre-reader, and I know what's coming
Your comments aren't offensive or insulting, and so are always welcome even if I don't always understand or agree with them
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First off, it isn't a BGC universe if there isn't violence - that's part of the whole "dark, cyberpunk future with rampaging boomers" genre
Second, yes, Doug does do a lot of fighting and "winning", but it's all part of the setup to the dual-error of his ways: a) the boomers are (by his definition) "sentient", and thus should be helped and not dismantled; and b) Hexe smacks him down by pointing out that his actions against the sabers were ultimately a really stupid thing to do and that he had a real bad case of testostorone poisoning.[Nene had an ARC? Okay, that totally blew past me. I guess I haven't been paying enough attention, darn it.]
Yes, and it's a rather important one - go back and re-read, paying attention to Nene's thoughts, words and actions. You will hopefully understand.
[Though I can't really prove it, I've always seen Sylia as having a grand MASTER PLAN. It's slow, subtle, but devastating. I like to think of her sitting in a darkened room, stroking a white cat and having a good maniacal laugh to herself.]
She may have one, but part of that plan has always (IMHO) been to ignore the issue of boomer sentiencein a supreme act of cognitive dissonence. She knows that there's more to boomers than what's publicly stated, but to acknowledge it would require her to make a decision about it, and she just doesn't want to...
[Surely he must have enjoyed it a little? C'mon, admit it, he enjoyed unleashing that ol' rightous fury, going old testament on the knight sabers, right? Just a little? C'mon.]
Oh, he did - just look at his attitude. But when it was all over, his CO chewed him several new orifices and kicked his attitude halfway back to his home dimension. Haven't you ever done something that you enjoyed while doing it, and then got reamed for it afterwards?
[I can only plead ignorance on that part. To me, he seems pretty darn invincible. And given how fricking mobile and FAST (superluminal? That's fast. That's faster than fast.) how anything could be out of his range is quite hard to believe.]
Yes, he can be that fast, but only when using a specific song. And when he does that, he doesn't have a lot of the other options that might be a bit more useful to the situation. Remember, Doug's powers may be nearly infinitely varied, but not all at once.
[Oh, well, I guess if you hit him with an orbital laser platform or a really long shot . . . but that's not very dramatic, is it? I'm reminded that it took a couple nukes to take out Twister, and even then it only got a couple of his limbs. And he grew them back. Ah, well, let me mull this over and get back to you.]
I can't speak for Bob, but I expect that if hit by the orbitl laser system, Doug would be vaporized. His field can stop a lot of stuff, but that's pushing it a bit far. Of course, Doug really isn't in the same league as Twister, power-wise. 99.99% of the time Twister would probably mop the floor with Doug in a 1-on-1. The other time would be a lucky choice of song for Doug that would get in a lucky shot...
[satisfy? I guess . . . I still think that Doug needs a bit more "believable" conflict, some more defeats that aren't so emotional, to make this a better work. As it is, it's too damn easy for him. But thanks for the response.]
Not exactly sure what you're looking for here, and I can't really answer it anyway since I'm not the author. But if you're looking to see Doug "lose" big time, all I can say is that I'm a pre-reader, and I know what's coming
Your comments aren't offensive or insulting, and so are always welcome even if I don't always understand or agree with them
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Drunkard's Walk Forum Moderator and Prereader At Large