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Plotbunny for sale - cheap
Re: Re: ... sorta like chicken broth.
Hmmm...
Hokay. Have been thinking about my objections to the whole "making this a Haruhi fanfic" plan (and note that having any SOS-dan characters know The Truth About Handwavium - and how to properly exploit it to best effect - would force us to that track rather thoroughly, given the universe as structured.)
My objections are as follows.
- First, it means that their story is simply More Important than anyone else's story. They are more significant, they are more meaningful, and everyone else just Isn't As Cool. Canon Haruhi defines the universe by her very thoughts and emotions. This makes her, inherently, the most important thing in any universe that contains her. The quest of "don't let her get bored" is more significant than every other quest there is - because if that one fails catastrophically, none of the rest will matter. More than that, you're introducing characters around her who can do things that were originally set in the "no one can do this" box. They are cool in ways that no one else is allowed to be cool (Time Travel, psychic powers not dependant on the 'wave, and Full Knowledge of Handwavium are all clearly in this category. Even wave-derivative psionics are suspect at best.) In their light, all other characters are lesser.
- Second, by similar process, it will have a strong tendency towards meaning that They're Right - and, by extension, that if you disagree with them, it's because You're Wrong. No one else gets this. All other morality is subjective.
- Third, tying into the first two, as soon as you have a group of people who are Just Plain Cooler, then the things they involve themselves in are Just Plain More Important. Anything that does not tie into the SOS-dan arc in some way is suddenly a "background flavor" story.
- Fourth, it takes a universe that was original fic and turns it into fanfic, and does so to no real purpose (to my mind, at least). The point of going with fanfic rather than original fiction seems (to me, at least) to be the following: first, to provide inspiration and emotional investment to the authors, helping them to write. It seems to me, by the production so far, that we have plenty of both - and I don't see that turning it into a haruhi fic really adds all that much. Second, it provides a universe and characters for those writers who aren't as good at coming up with their own (hey, we all have shortfalls somewhere) - again, it seems to me that we have the beginnings of a nice, complex, thriving universe, and a bunch of interesting characters to populate it - as well as a veritable mine of inspirations to draw new characters from. third, the ready-made characters that it provides are ones that the readers already know and care about. The need for exposition is reduced, and you've got a bit of emotional investment (sometimes more than a bit) going in. For here - well, we're not really dealing with the SOS-dan as characters in enough focus to bring out the emotional investment (at least, not yet) and I don't see that the prior knowledge aspects are all that helpful, as we have *loads* of unknowing characters to do the learning onscreen with, in appropriately interesting, non-exposition-block ways.
On the disadvantage side, if it *is* fanfic, then you don't own it. Not completely, anyway. Always you are beholden to another. Here, I see we still get the disadvantage, but not the advantage to go with it.
- Fifth, we're just getting started. The world is yet unformed - and already we're into Uberplot. Once you give in to the Uberplot, forever will it dominate your destiny.
Essentially, then, it takes a wide-open, semi-lifelike, everybody bouncing around doing their own thing, building a shared history universe, and turns it into The Story of the SOS-dan, with being told from the POV of support characters of varying levels of importance and connection.
I have said things like this before, but I will reiterate. As I am not actually contributing a character, or actual writing, I do not feel that I have direct influence in my own person here. I do not get a vote. I cannot stand for my words. My words stand for themselves.
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Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-06-2006, 02:09 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by The Hunterminator - 12-06-2006, 02:52 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-06-2006, 03:06 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-07-2006, 04:16 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Morganite - 12-07-2006, 04:25 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Epsilon - 12-07-2006, 05:44 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-07-2006, 05:48 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-07-2006, 09:37 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-07-2006, 10:12 AM
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Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-07-2006, 05:47 PM
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Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-08-2006, 04:31 AM
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Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-08-2006, 05:03 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by M Fnord - 12-08-2006, 05:18 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-08-2006, 05:25 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Sirrocco - 12-08-2006, 07:39 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-08-2006, 07:54 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by M Fnord - 12-08-2006, 07:55 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Sirrocco - 12-08-2006, 08:54 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by drakensis - 12-08-2006, 12:34 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Sirrocco - 12-08-2006, 06:26 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-08-2006, 06:51 PM
quirky tech - by Rieverre - 12-08-2006, 07:14 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Acyl - 12-08-2006, 07:31 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-08-2006, 07:56 PM
Unpredictable - by Foxboy - 12-08-2006, 09:02 PM
Re: Unpredictable - by ECSNorway - 12-08-2006, 10:34 PM
Re: eating the biotech-goop - by Norgarth - 12-08-2006, 10:39 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Morganite - 12-08-2006, 10:39 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by M Fnord - 12-08-2006, 11:21 PM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by drakensis - 12-09-2006, 12:21 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by The Hunterminator - 12-09-2006, 02:18 AM
Re: Where the elite meet to... - by Sirrocco - 12-09-2006, 04:43 AM
S.S Steamboat Willy - by Florin - 12-09-2006, 01:59 PM
Re: S.S Steamboat Willy - by Acyl - 12-09-2006, 02:53 PM
hm - by Foxboy - 12-09-2006, 07:11 PM
Re: ladies and gentlemen, we've got retro - by CattyNebulart - 12-09-2006, 07:52 PM
Re: ladies and gentlemen, we've got retro - by CattyNebulart - 12-10-2006, 04:45 AM
Soap Bubble - by Valles - 12-10-2006, 09:56 AM
some issues - by Sirrocco - 12-10-2006, 11:21 AM
hem, haw - by Foxboy - 12-10-2006, 11:46 AM
Re: some issues - by Valles - 12-10-2006, 11:59 AM
Re: some issues - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-10-2006, 12:52 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-10-2006, 01:21 PM
Re: some issues - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-10-2006, 01:27 PM
Re: some issues - by Sirrocco - 12-10-2006, 02:45 PM
Re: some issues - by CattyNebulart - 12-10-2006, 04:44 PM
Re: some issues - by Acyl - 12-10-2006, 05:53 PM
Re: some issues - by Rieverre - 12-10-2006, 06:20 PM
Re: some issues - by CattyNebulart - 12-10-2006, 07:34 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-10-2006, 08:15 PM
Re: some issues - by The Hunterminator - 12-10-2006, 08:26 PM
Re: some issues - by drakensis - 12-10-2006, 08:48 PM
Re: some issues - by Rieverre - 12-10-2006, 09:19 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-10-2006, 09:49 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-10-2006, 11:16 PM
Re: some issues - by drakensis - 12-11-2006, 12:22 AM
Re: some issues - by CattyNebulart - 12-11-2006, 02:03 AM
Re: some issues - by Deadpan29 - 12-11-2006, 02:34 AM
Danger Will 2 - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-11-2006, 03:55 AM
Re: some issues - by CattyNebulart - 12-11-2006, 04:09 AM
Re: some issues - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-11-2006, 05:19 AM
Re: some issues - by M Fnord - 12-11-2006, 05:29 AM
Re: some issues - by CattyNebulart - 12-11-2006, 05:43 AM
Docking - by Firvulag - 12-11-2006, 08:31 AM
stuffs - by Foxboy - 12-11-2006, 09:23 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Morganite - 12-11-2006, 10:19 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by drakensis - 12-11-2006, 01:02 PM
Con-ga line! - by Rieverre - 12-11-2006, 02:51 PM
Quick Reply... - by Acyl - 12-11-2006, 02:53 PM
Re: Quick Reply... - by Rieverre - 12-11-2006, 02:58 PM
Re: some issues - by drakensis - 12-11-2006, 04:06 PM
need some help - by CattyNebulart - 12-11-2006, 04:30 PM
Re: need some help - by Sirrocco - 12-11-2006, 06:10 PM
*boggle* - by Rieverre - 12-11-2006, 06:31 PM
Re: need some help - by The Hunterminator - 12-11-2006, 08:00 PM
Re: need some help - by Rieverre - 12-11-2006, 08:05 PM
thanks fo the help - by CattyNebulart - 12-11-2006, 08:20 PM
Speeds - by Foxboy - 12-11-2006, 08:37 PM
Re: Speeds - by The Hunterminator - 12-11-2006, 09:44 PM
Re: thanks fo the help - by Black Aeronaut - 12-11-2006, 10:24 PM
Party time! - by M Fnord - 12-11-2006, 10:31 PM
Whee - by CattyNebulart - 12-11-2006, 10:44 PM
Re: Whee - by The Hunterminator - 12-11-2006, 11:02 PM
crowd control - by Rieverre - 12-11-2006, 11:54 PM
Re: crowd control - by CattyNebulart - 12-12-2006, 12:06 AM
Re: crowd control - by The Hunterminator - 12-12-2006, 12:08 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-12-2006, 01:32 AM
Re: crowd control - by The Hunterminator - 12-12-2006, 01:48 AM
haha - by Foxboy - 12-12-2006, 01:53 AM
Re: crowd control - by Rieverre - 12-12-2006, 01:56 AM
Re: crowd control - by ECSNorway - 12-12-2006, 02:41 AM
Re: crowd control - by Norgarth - 12-12-2006, 04:40 AM
Re: crowd control - by ECSNorway - 12-12-2006, 05:03 AM
Re: crowd control - by CattyNebulart - 12-12-2006, 05:26 AM
Re: crowd control - by Sirrocco - 12-12-2006, 05:30 AM
Re: Space Pirates - by Acyl - 12-12-2006, 06:20 AM
Re: Space Pirates - by Rieverre - 12-12-2006, 06:53 AM
Re: Space Pirates - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-12-2006, 06:56 AM
Re: Space Pirates - by Sirrocco - 12-12-2006, 06:58 AM
Re: Space Pirates - by ECSNorway - 12-12-2006, 06:59 AM
Re: Space Pirates - by M Fnord - 12-12-2006, 07:03 AM
Re: crowd control - by Valles - 12-12-2006, 08:50 AM
Re: crowd control - by Morganite - 12-12-2006, 11:13 AM
Re: crowd control - by drakensis - 12-12-2006, 11:59 AM
Re: crowd control - by drakensis - 12-12-2006, 12:24 PM
Something Different... - by K sai - 12-12-2006, 12:51 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-12-2006, 03:22 PM
Re: In all Kandor - by ECSNorway - 12-12-2006, 05:35 PM
Re: Something Different... - by Sirrocco - 12-12-2006, 06:01 PM
clothes make the fan - by Rieverre - 12-12-2006, 06:44 PM
Re: clothes make the fan - by The Hunterminator - 12-12-2006, 07:03 PM
Re: On Conventions - by M Fnord - 12-12-2006, 07:14 PM
Re: clothes make the fan - by Black Aeronaut - 12-12-2006, 08:50 PM
aw, snap - by Foxboy - 12-12-2006, 11:46 PM
re: Conventions - by drakensis - 12-13-2006, 01:52 AM
life has its ups and downs - by Rieverre - 12-13-2006, 03:44 AM
Haruhi - by Sirrocco - 12-13-2006, 04:29 AM
Re: Haruhi - by ECSNorway - 12-13-2006, 05:00 AM
Re: Haruhi - by Black Aeronaut - 12-13-2006, 05:22 AM
*snickersnort* - by Rieverre - 12-13-2006, 05:27 AM
Re: Something Different... - by K sai - 12-13-2006, 05:29 AM
Re: Danger Will - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-13-2006, 06:33 AM
continuing - by Foxboy - 12-13-2006, 08:04 AM
This is Helmuth, for Boskone.... - by Feinan - 12-13-2006, 09:37 AM
Re: This is Helmuth, for Boskone.... - by CattyNebulart - 12-13-2006, 09:49 AM
Re: Something Different... - by Sirrocco - 12-13-2006, 10:06 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-13-2006, 03:16 PM
The plot thickens - by M Fnord - 12-13-2006, 07:33 PM
... - by The Hunterminator - 12-13-2006, 08:15 PM
hmm... - by Sirrocco - 12-13-2006, 10:14 PM
Re: hmm... - by The Hunterminator - 12-13-2006, 10:20 PM
... sorta like chicken broth. - by Rieverre - 12-13-2006, 11:01 PM
Re: hmm... - by CattyNebulart - 12-13-2006, 11:04 PM
Re: ... sorta like chicken broth. - by M Fnord - 12-13-2006, 11:11 PM
Re: hmm... - by The Hunterminator - 12-13-2006, 11:15 PM
Re: ... sorta like chicken broth. - by Valles - 12-14-2006, 02:11 AM
Re: ... sorta like chicken broth. - by M Fnord - 12-14-2006, 02:23 AM
Re: Re: ... sorta like chicken broth. - by CattyNebulart - 12-14-2006, 03:01 AM
Re: Re: ... sorta like chicken broth. - by Sirrocco - 12-14-2006, 05:39 AM
Mmm, chicken... - by KJ - 12-14-2006, 05:44 AM
SOS-dan - by Foxboy - 12-14-2006, 05:55 AM
Re: SOS-dan - by CattyNebulart - 12-14-2006, 06:28 AM
Re: Re: ... sorta like chicken broth. - by Valles - 12-14-2006, 07:51 AM
devil's advocate - by Foxboy - 12-14-2006, 09:08 AM
Transferred - by Feinan - 12-14-2006, 10:13 AM
Re: Zwilniks off the starboard bow! - by Feinan - 12-14-2006, 12:12 PM
Scrape 'em off, Jim! - by Evil Midnight Lurker - 12-14-2006, 12:30 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-14-2006, 04:43 PM
Re: Zwilniks off the starboard bow! - by Valles - 12-14-2006, 05:21 PM
Morden - by CattyNebulart - 12-14-2006, 06:25 PM
Re: Zwilniks off the starboard bow! - by M Fnord - 12-14-2006, 06:27 PM
Re: Zwilniks off the starboard bow! - by The Hunterminator - 12-14-2006, 10:52 PM
Getting Some Air - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 12:11 AM
Regarding Castle Magellan - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 01:06 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 01:08 AM
Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 01:10 AM
Spider's Web - by Valles - 12-15-2006, 01:33 AM
Re: Spider's Web - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 01:43 AM
Re: Spider's Web - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 02:10 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-15-2006, 02:17 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 02:29 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 02:30 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Bob Schroeck - 12-15-2006, 02:39 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-15-2006, 03:04 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 03:16 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by The Hunterminator - 12-15-2006, 04:11 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-15-2006, 05:20 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by KJ - 12-15-2006, 06:01 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-15-2006, 07:45 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-15-2006, 07:59 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-15-2006, 08:11 AM
Re: Zwilniks off the starboard bow! - by Feinan - 12-15-2006, 08:26 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 05:15 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-15-2006, 05:45 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 05:54 PM
USAF - by Foxboy - 12-15-2006, 07:44 PM
Re: USAF - by ECSNorway - 12-15-2006, 08:05 PM
What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 08:09 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 08:11 PM
re: What's Where - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 08:15 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-15-2006, 08:17 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 08:32 PM
hm - by Foxboy - 12-15-2006, 08:45 PM
Re: hm - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 08:55 PM
Re: hm - by drakensis - 12-15-2006, 09:02 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by The Hunterminator - 12-15-2006, 10:12 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-15-2006, 10:30 PM
barroom brawls - by Foxboy - 12-15-2006, 10:33 PM
Re: barroom brawls - by M Fnord - 12-15-2006, 10:42 PM
Re: barroom brawls - by Black Aeronaut - 12-15-2006, 11:22 PM
Re: What's Where - by Valles - 12-15-2006, 11:46 PM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 12:01 AM
Re: What's Where - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 12:36 AM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 12:56 AM
Re: What's Where - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 01:13 AM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 01:42 AM
Re: What's Where - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 02:15 AM
Re: What's Where - by drakensis - 12-16-2006, 02:20 AM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 02:23 AM
Re: What's Where - by Sirrocco - 12-16-2006, 02:41 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-16-2006, 03:05 AM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 03:06 AM
Re: What's Where - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 03:18 AM
Re: What's Where - by drakensis - 12-16-2006, 03:37 AM
Re: What's Where - by Sirrocco - 12-16-2006, 03:46 AM
Re: What's Where - by CattyNebulart - 12-16-2006, 03:53 AM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 04:10 AM
Re: What's Where - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 04:21 AM
Read and die! - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 04:29 AM
Re: What's Where - by drakensis - 12-16-2006, 04:29 AM
Re: What's Where - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 04:32 AM
hermit and the high priestess - by Rieverre - 12-16-2006, 04:40 AM
Re: hermit and the high priestess - by ECSNorway - 12-16-2006, 04:46 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-16-2006, 05:19 AM
Trivial use for gas giants / asteroid belts... - by KJ - 12-16-2006, 05:52 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-16-2006, 06:22 AM
Re: Trivial use for gas giants / asteroid belts... - by Sirrocco - 12-16-2006, 06:27 AM
I don't get paid enough for... - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 07:24 AM
Re: Trivial use for gas giants / asteroid belts... - by K sai - 12-16-2006, 10:55 AM
Date estimate... - by Feinan - 12-16-2006, 04:53 PM
Re: Date estimate... - by CattyNebulart - 12-16-2006, 06:35 PM
Re: Date estimate... - by Valles - 12-16-2006, 08:03 PM
Re: Date estimate... - by CattyNebulart - 12-16-2006, 08:33 PM
Transferred - by Feinan - 12-16-2006, 09:44 PM
Re: Ships of the fleet - by Firvulag - 12-16-2006, 11:43 PM
Re: Words - by Firvulag - 12-16-2006, 11:46 PM
timeline - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 12:05 AM
timeline - by drakensis - 12-17-2006, 12:15 AM
Re: Ships of the fleet - by drakensis - 12-17-2006, 12:20 AM
Re: Ships of the fleet - by Feinan - 12-17-2006, 12:26 AM
Re: Ships of the fleet - by Valles - 12-17-2006, 12:42 AM
Re: Words - by drakensis - 12-17-2006, 12:58 AM
Re: Ship List - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 01:06 AM
Re: Ship List - by Firvulag - 12-17-2006, 01:25 AM
Re: hermit and the high priestess - by Norgarth - 12-17-2006, 01:59 AM
Re: Ships of the fleet - by M Fnord - 12-17-2006, 02:01 AM
Re: Ship List - by The Hunterminator - 12-17-2006, 02:02 AM
Re: Ship List - by KJ - 12-17-2006, 02:12 AM
Re: Ship List - by Black Aeronaut - 12-17-2006, 02:19 AM
Re: ship list - by Rieverre - 12-17-2006, 02:53 AM
On acceleration and speed - by Sirrocco - 12-17-2006, 03:16 AM
RE: ship list - by Norgarth - 12-17-2006, 03:22 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by KJ - 12-17-2006, 03:53 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 04:30 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by Valles - 12-17-2006, 04:35 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by M Fnord - 12-17-2006, 04:41 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by KJ - 12-17-2006, 04:59 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 05:43 AM
Re: On acceleration and speed - by KJ - 12-17-2006, 06:06 AM
Opening theme? - by Valles - 12-17-2006, 06:38 AM
Re: Opening theme? - by M Fnord - 12-17-2006, 07:00 AM
Re: Opening theme? - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 08:28 AM
Re: Opening theme? - by Sirrocco - 12-17-2006, 11:00 AM
Re: Opening theme? - by KJ - 12-17-2006, 11:28 AM
Re: Opening theme? - by Sirrocco - 12-17-2006, 11:58 AM
Re: Opening theme? - by Feinan - 12-17-2006, 03:57 PM
Re: Opening theme? - by Rieverre - 12-17-2006, 04:42 PM
Engineering issues - by Valles - 12-17-2006, 06:29 PM
Re: Engineering issues - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 07:37 PM
Re: Engineering issues - by Valles - 12-17-2006, 09:00 PM
hm - by Foxboy - 12-17-2006, 09:04 PM
Re: hm - by Rieverre - 12-17-2006, 09:22 PM
Re: hm - by CattyNebulart - 12-17-2006, 09:38 PM
Re: Engineering issues - by M Fnord - 12-17-2006, 10:35 PM
Re: Engineering issues - by The Hunterminator - 12-18-2006, 01:40 AM
Speilberg and E.T. have much to answer for.... - by Feinan - 12-18-2006, 02:40 AM
Re: Speilberg and E.T. have much to answer for.... - by Feinan - 12-18-2006, 03:12 AM
re: opening song - by drakensis - 12-18-2006, 03:17 AM
Re: Speilberg and E.T. have much to answer for.... - by Feinan - 12-18-2006, 03:43 AM
Re: Speilberg and E.T. have much to answer for.... - by Sirrocco - 12-18-2006, 03:59 AM
Re: Speilberg and E.T. have much to answer for.... - by Feinan - 12-18-2006, 04:16 AM
Every corner of the universe needs a Cat Lady.... - by Ravynlocke - 12-18-2006, 11:33 AM
How NOT to Wake Up - by Anpwhotep - 12-18-2006, 12:22 PM
Green Spandex! - by drakensis - 12-18-2006, 12:44 PM
Re: Spider's Web - by Duane Peters - 12-18-2006, 01:26 PM
Re: Green Spandex - by Rieverre - 12-18-2006, 03:34 PM
Re: Green Spandex - by Feinan - 12-18-2006, 03:49 PM
Re: Green Spandex - by Rieverre - 12-18-2006, 03:54 PM
Explain Star Stories - by M Fnord - 12-18-2006, 11:09 PM
Re: Prelude to Honorable Drunken Battle... - by The Hunterminator - 12-18-2006, 11:28 PM
Re: Explain Star Stories - by KJ - 12-19-2006, 12:13 AM
Re: Explain Star Stories - by M Fnord - 12-19-2006, 12:34 AM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-19-2006, 01:50 AM
Transferred - by Feinan - 12-19-2006, 03:09 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by robkelk - 12-19-2006, 04:13 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-19-2006, 04:14 AM
Thoughts on handwavium.... - by Feinan - 12-19-2006, 04:21 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by robkelk - 12-19-2006, 04:22 AM
Re: Thoughts on handwavium.... - by M Fnord - 12-19-2006, 04:47 AM
Re: Thoughts on handwavium.... - by KJ - 12-19-2006, 04:55 AM
Taking it personally... - by robkelk - 12-19-2006, 06:29 AM
Time out, please - by Valles - 12-19-2006, 07:19 AM
Re: Time out, please - by The Hunterminator - 12-19-2006, 07:24 AM
Re: Time out, please - by Feinan - 12-19-2006, 07:46 AM
Re: Time out, please - by M Fnord - 12-19-2006, 07:49 AM
Re: Time out, please - by Feinan - 12-19-2006, 08:20 AM
Re: Time out, please - by The Hunterminator - 12-19-2006, 08:22 AM
Re: Time out, please - by CattyNebulart - 12-19-2006, 09:52 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-19-2006, 10:08 AM
Re: Time out, please - by Anpwhotep - 12-19-2006, 12:00 PM
Re: Time out, please - by drakensis - 12-19-2006, 02:09 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-19-2006, 04:21 PM
Re: Time out, please - by robkelk - 12-19-2006, 05:03 PM
Re: Time out, please - by M Fnord - 12-19-2006, 05:22 PM
Re: Time out, please - by Duane Peters - 12-19-2006, 09:30 PM
Re: My Turn - by Bob Schroeck - 12-19-2006, 09:52 PM
Re: My Turn - by M Fnord - 12-19-2006, 10:06 PM
Re: forums - by CattyNebulart - 12-19-2006, 10:25 PM
Re: My Turn - by Ebony - 12-19-2006, 10:30 PM
Re: Time out, please - by Black Aeronaut - 12-19-2006, 10:34 PM
New Forum - by Foxboy - 12-19-2006, 10:48 PM
Oops - by Valles - 12-19-2006, 11:37 PM
transferred - by drakensis - 12-20-2006, 02:03 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 03:14 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by robkelk - 12-20-2006, 03:54 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-20-2006, 04:35 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 05:33 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by KJ - 12-20-2006, 05:53 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 06:00 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by KJ - 12-20-2006, 06:22 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 07:26 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by ECSNorway - 12-20-2006, 08:43 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by Firvulag - 12-20-2006, 09:35 AM
Re: Dogfighting - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 10:15 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by KJ - 12-20-2006, 10:16 AM
Re: Dogfighting - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 10:18 AM
Re: Dogfighting - by Feinan - 12-20-2006, 10:46 AM
Re: My Turn - by Anpwhotep - 12-20-2006, 11:30 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Feinan - 12-20-2006, 11:38 AM
Re: Dogfighting - by Anpwhotep - 12-20-2006, 12:24 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-20-2006, 12:26 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Feinan - 12-20-2006, 12:39 PM
> Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by drakensis - 12-20-2006, 12:55 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by KJ - 12-20-2006, 01:02 PM
Re: Dogfighting - by KJ - 12-20-2006, 01:06 PM
Re: Dogfighting - by Rieverre - 12-20-2006, 02:11 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Bob Schroeck - 12-20-2006, 09:58 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-20-2006, 11:49 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-21-2006, 12:28 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-21-2006, 01:01 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-21-2006, 01:18 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-21-2006, 01:31 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-21-2006, 01:35 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-21-2006, 02:13 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by drakensis - 12-21-2006, 02:36 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-21-2006, 02:49 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-21-2006, 03:35 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by robkelk - 12-21-2006, 04:04 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by M Fnord - 12-21-2006, 04:22 AM
'Wave weapons - by Foxboy - 12-21-2006, 03:38 PM
Re: 'Wave weapons - by Rieverre - 12-21-2006, 03:51 PM
nodnod - by Foxboy - 12-21-2006, 04:08 PM
Re: nodnod - by Valles - 12-21-2006, 07:37 PM
A few other ideas... - by Bob Schroeck - 12-21-2006, 10:05 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Bob Schroeck - 12-21-2006, 10:09 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-21-2006, 10:56 PM
Re: 'Wave weapons - by KJ - 12-21-2006, 11:37 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-22-2006, 12:15 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by KJ - 12-22-2006, 12:20 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-22-2006, 12:57 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by KJ - 12-22-2006, 01:20 AM
Re: A few other ideas... - by drakensis - 12-22-2006, 02:09 AM
Supers faction - by Foxboy - 12-22-2006, 02:47 AM
Re: Supers faction - by Bob Schroeck - 12-22-2006, 03:18 AM
Re: Supers faction - by Norgarth - 12-22-2006, 07:35 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-22-2006, 01:41 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by The Hunterminator - 12-22-2006, 04:25 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-22-2006, 07:35 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-23-2006, 02:13 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-23-2006, 02:35 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-23-2006, 08:38 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by CattyNebulart - 12-23-2006, 05:28 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-23-2006, 07:40 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by robkelk - 12-24-2006, 04:13 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-24-2006, 05:03 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-24-2006, 05:28 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-24-2006, 05:33 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Valles - 12-24-2006, 06:53 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Morganite - 12-24-2006, 06:58 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Florin - 12-24-2006, 07:58 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Feinan - 12-24-2006, 10:25 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-24-2006, 10:53 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ECSNorway - 12-24-2006, 08:50 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by robkelk - 12-24-2006, 10:56 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by robkelk - 12-24-2006, 11:01 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Feinan - 12-25-2006, 02:47 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Ebony - 12-26-2006, 11:55 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by M Fnord - 12-27-2006, 12:09 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Rieverre - 12-27-2006, 12:14 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-27-2006, 02:49 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Ebony - 12-27-2006, 03:25 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-27-2006, 04:06 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-27-2006, 05:09 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-27-2006, 05:32 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Sirrocco - 12-27-2006, 05:55 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by robkelk - 12-27-2006, 08:42 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-27-2006, 08:54 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-27-2006, 09:15 AM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by ClassicDrogn - 12-27-2006, 09:18 AM
Re: Taking it personally... - by Rieverre - 12-27-2006, 01:28 PM
Re: Plotbunny for sale - cheap - by Bob Schroeck - 12-27-2006, 04:58 PM
Re: Taking it personally... - by robkelk - 12-27-2006, 07:45 PM
Dorsai Irregulars - by Freddy Isnot - 12-28-2006, 10:52 AM
Re: Dorsai Irregulars - by Ebony - 12-28-2006, 07:44 PM
Sometime after the SOS-Con - by drakensis - 12-30-2006, 05:14 PM
Re: Sometime after the SOS-Con - by Sirrocco - 12-30-2006, 06:14 PM
The Charger - by Foxboy - 12-30-2006, 07:23 PM
Re: The Charger - by drakensis - 12-30-2006, 08:15 PM
re: Lucy - by Foxboy - 12-30-2006, 08:40 PM
Re: Sometime after the SOS-Con - by drakensis - 12-30-2006, 10:01 PM
Re: Sometime after the SOS-Con - by drakensis - 01-01-2007, 12:29 AM
Re: Another idea for background material - by Anpwhotep - 01-04-2007, 01:19 PM
Re: Another idea for background material - by Feinan - 01-05-2007, 08:40 AM
A thought on handwavium - by Feinan - 01-05-2007, 09:50 AM
Re: A thought on handwavium - by Duane Peters - 01-06-2007, 01:55 AM
Re: Another idea for background material - by Sirrocco - 01-06-2007, 06:21 AM
Handwavium theory - no intelligence needed.... - by Feinan - 01-07-2007, 01:35 PM
Re: Handwavium theory - no intelligence needed.... - by Sirrocco - 01-07-2007, 09:13 PM
Re: Handwavium theory - no intelligence needed.... - by CattyNebulart - 01-08-2007, 08:56 PM
Re: Handwavium theory - no intelligence needed.... - by CattyNebulart - 01-08-2007, 10:18 PM
Re: Sometime after the SOS-Con - by drakensis - 01-13-2007, 04:39 PM
A quick bit of info needed... - by Feinan - 01-15-2007, 04:06 PM

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