Genoscythe(Bit it)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
You know there's something else everyone here has in common....
Jusenkyou.
What is it about that place that creates some sort of creeping Boskonism after all these years?
Like an infection
Didn't she first appear during the war? What has she really done since then?
GLucas-Fan
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Wait.
That's real? As in. Those are real people. She really did that to someone's head. That's.... that's a melon getting hit with a sledgehammer.
:ill:
That's fucked up. That's extroardinarily fucked up. That's fucked up and giving me nightmares tonight.
And she does that to people?
Christ she's got to be stopped.
Crystal_Soldier (True Senshi)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Yep. That's what the Elephant looks like. And he's a big ugly cunt too.
Now thank god you never met him in person.
Leclerc (Tankman)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Not a lot really, especially if she's been a troubleshooter. And I'd be inclined to believe Mamabear on that.
Nehallenia's the last one that's a noteworthy 'troubleshooter' style operation. That's the one where Quattro was recovered. It was nearly ten years ago. Otherwise she hasn't done anything particularly noteworthy or spectacularly. So either anything she's involved has been kept quite, or she's been on reserve. The Lun mission as possible one - actually, that makes a lot of sense if she's been working under the table.
Outside of GJ, it's sort of like she's struggled to find a niche.
There was a world record attempt, but it got annihilated by Ben Rhodes soon after once the handwavium restruction was removed.
She spent a few years as an instructor for The Roughriders to pay for her own private asteroid fortress to start a martial arts school.
She tried to open a combat training school and it worked for a few years, even getting Stellvicorp as a client, but the location was a killer and they've been struggling to keep going since a centre opened on the moon.
She's tried to start a spacecraft manufacturer, but Asagiri's hasn't really taken off. Wining that championship earned some sort of interest - it didn't take long for the big names to come up with an answer, and the 'nobody ever got fired for buying IBM' effect took over.
That and a note of censure from the federation hanging over her head. Some people don't want to deal with her now because of that.
Then along comes the millenium and after a year of wrangling she's jammed into the parliament. It's a bad idea and she has to battle a parliament that treats her like a white blood cell treats a bacteria. She gets a few things done, but not half as much as she needs.
Nothing she's done since then has really stuck well enough to live off - I mean really, before the Lun mission, all anyone out there really thought about her was the Boskone War, as a warrior.
Then her brother's killed.
Just as I try to get out, the pull me back in.
Guess she just finally snaps and goes evil.
MirandaZZ
Posted on April 13th, 2025
I never liked her. I mean, I always suspected she had a cloudy Psychopass, even when the Queen had appointed her, but this is so much worse than I could've ever expected. She may be a cyber, but she's nothing like our Lady Mars at all. She just doesn't fit with us, does she?
And then you see videos like that and you have to ask if she's really the sort of person we want to allow in? There's no justice there. There's definitely no love. There's just violence. That's not what we're doing here. We want justice sure, but justice isn't arbitrarily blasting people out of the sky with a missile.
She doesn't deserve to be a citizen. Terminate with Prejudice.
Unless of course the unchecked Queen already knew about this. We really need a queen that can make Venus great....
Ennisman_04 (Rogue)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
::There's no justice there.
This isn't justice. This is Punishment.
- Frank Castle.
El_Presidente (In the Big House)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
That's not really an unusual story for a lot of people who came up at the same time.
The thing you have to remember is that she didn't really appearr in Fenspace until what, March 2012? That's right before the Boskon war kicked off.
So really, someone with her abilities instead of having time to establish themselves and do what they want to do - she gets sorta shuffled towards the frontlines and told to fight and she does that. But then the war she's preparred for ends and you have to ask, 'now what'?
Anyone that was established before the war has at least some connections to either build on during the war, or help them get established - while people arriving afterwards aren't weighed down by the baggage, or waiting to be demobbed, so they hit the ground running in the post war victory boom, leaving the warriors behind struggling to find something to do.
They're like the PC's who joined the game during the 'war' arc, built their characters to match, and then got a kick when th GM just sort of called an end to it and now they had to figure out what to do next - only they just weren't geared up for it so they sort of struggle if they don't have any prior experience.
Jordan Waide was another one, who after years on welfare, just jumped at the chance to do what she was good at, I guess.
Commando_77 (Learned Friend)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
But that's no excuse.
It doesn't excuse scattering someone's atoms to the solar wind because you're pissed at 'em. There's a place for understanding and there's a place for justice - and there's a place for keeping the rest of the Universe safe from something capable of doing things like that to a human being.
I mean. If she cant control herself and can't be controlled, what other option remains?
It's harsh, but it's fair. It's justice.
That wasn't a killing. It was a unilateral execution. Sanctioned or not, it has no place in a civilised sociey. And neither does anyone who practices it.
This is the differences betwen order, and disorder.
Which do you prefer?
El_Presidente (In the Big House)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
You can always tell the former yanks, can't you? That's not justice, that's punishment pron.
There's a big difference between a cold blooded killer, a hot-blood murder of passion, a reckless accident, and someone snapping under the stress of loosing a loved one. They're all different mindsets, invoking different crimes, with different punishements. Or, in some cases, treatment rather than punishment.
Honestly, put yourself in her shoes.
A lot of people could probably see themselves trying the same thing.
Some time with a fucking psychiatrist would be a better solution than an execution chamber.
Commando_77 (Learned Friend)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
But it won't being the dead back to life, either.
We can understand. We can sympathise. But we cannot condone.
We already have former criminals threatening to hack LEO databases, and actively supporting her in making a missile strike against whatever innocent settlement might be holding them.
A lot of us have been to war too, and we don't act like that? You don't see me going off on vigilante cruise, nor 90% of other veterans out there.
If we don't have law and order, what civilisation have we fought for?
Tagbar (Not a ripoff)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
I'm still hoping someone will confirm this as an OP, like BB said.
Jet was always cool in her own way and if you've ever met her and actually talked with her you'd get it - like talking with your favourite band after a concert. I did a magazine piece with her on the Highway Star years ago and I never felt threatened. I mean, I knew she had all this power and strength but she was always so precise and light, like you knew she was taking a great effort to keep you safe - and then we were both laughing at Bakuon together like she was just another fan.
It's sad to see something like this happening. I hope there's more to it than what it seems.
If there isn't. I hope someone's able to help her.
Faptron_Alpha (Banned from Argo)
Have you seen Gaige Kisaragi? Like, holy shit look at that picture on Asagiri.fen in that fortified suit. Once I beat it out of my system I couldn't help but notice a family similarity.
So. What's the relation between the two?
K_Lee_Spanner (Wrench Wench)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
It's the hair. I can rememer the amount of people who insisted Jet was related to Erin Simmah too, just because of the hair and eye colour.
And also. I'm jealous.
That's some biomod.
Needtocomeupwithaname (Fenspace Gargoyle) (Original Poster)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Well, this thread degenerated fast......
Mamabear sort of unofficially confirmed Jet as being a troubleshooter, but we're not sure if this is a troubleshooter mission or not.
Space Patrol will not comment on ongoing investigtion. They are asking those responsible to make contact with a Space Patrol facility where she will be given fair opportunity to explain herself.
Hiroshima has revoked Lun's registration - apparently on the pretext of not listing the missiles as an armament.
Parliament has been convened on Venus for an emergency session, but they won't be able to do anything until there's a conviction.
Settlements have already blacklisted Lun from docking. The Island and Port Phobos are the main ones so far.
There's also the usual shocked posts from friends asking her why, and that it's not to late to come back.
Only people who haven't said anything are SHIELD..... which might just say a lot if BB_Shotgun is right.
FranticBubbles (The one in the loop)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Not sure if it's related or not, but Frigga put up a red notice for all dockings a few days ago. Apparently, they managed to have a full-blown nuclear reactor fire without anyone noticing, including nearly a dozen radiation injuries.
They came within a whisker of becoming Pripyat in Space.
Teela_Free (AGZ: Frigga 77)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Another one?
And we don't hear about it until it shows up HERE?
We already had one six months ago. This place is falling apart.
Crystal_Soldier (True Senshi)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Commando, there’re two different kinds of veterans of the Boskone war.
You’ve your people who saw enough of the elephant to say that, yeah they’ve seen war.
But at the end of the day they mostly did other things, from logistical support to medical or technical support. That’s most of you people out there.
You had your bad day.
You saw the elephant and it was as ugly as you thought it would be, but you didn’t really spend time with it. You know just enough to know it’s not something you never want to see again. You learned something about yourself, got the badge, then went and did other things.
Then you have your Jet’s, or your Garrets or Wolfboys who don’t just see the elephant – they live with it, day to day. Day after day, right at the teeth.
They’re the ones committing suicide at a rate two times higher than the average fen.
They’re the ones who still live with it every night. The Elephant’s in the living room.
This isn’t someone turning bad or going evil. This isn’t contagious boskonism.
Someone she saw as he brother just got killed, and she’s dealing with it the only way she knows how.
It’s a goddamn tragedy.
She doesn't need support on her mission.
She doesn't need a cell in a cold dark place.
She needs help before it gets worse.
Evans_01 (Ron/Hermione Shipper)
She rescued me on Jusenkyou. She saved our class.
By locking us in and destroying the door so nobody else could get to us.
I hope she's OK.
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(Meta: I really amn't sure what I'm going for - except for a wide variety of natural reactions (Some support, some help, some commentar,y some vehement hatred) and maybe a look back on the historical context after 12 years, but it's a tough subject to put together. And it also is, kind of, what Jet's life looks like to outsiders - she never really sort of achieved major success, despite trying a lot of things. (Partly because I don't really want to unilaterally grant it, either, but that's a digression). Let's dare to do it and see what happens - even if it's a bit beyond my skill level to do it right after a week trying. Otherwise it gets boring again. There's another scene for the mainline with Wolfboy, but it can wait.)
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Posted on April 13th, 2025
You know there's something else everyone here has in common....
Jusenkyou.
What is it about that place that creates some sort of creeping Boskonism after all these years?
Like an infection
Didn't she first appear during the war? What has she really done since then?
GLucas-Fan
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Wait.
That's real? As in. Those are real people. She really did that to someone's head. That's.... that's a melon getting hit with a sledgehammer.
:ill:
That's fucked up. That's extroardinarily fucked up. That's fucked up and giving me nightmares tonight.
And she does that to people?
Christ she's got to be stopped.
Crystal_Soldier (True Senshi)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Yep. That's what the Elephant looks like. And he's a big ugly cunt too.
Now thank god you never met him in person.
Leclerc (Tankman)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Not a lot really, especially if she's been a troubleshooter. And I'd be inclined to believe Mamabear on that.
Nehallenia's the last one that's a noteworthy 'troubleshooter' style operation. That's the one where Quattro was recovered. It was nearly ten years ago. Otherwise she hasn't done anything particularly noteworthy or spectacularly. So either anything she's involved has been kept quite, or she's been on reserve. The Lun mission as possible one - actually, that makes a lot of sense if she's been working under the table.
Outside of GJ, it's sort of like she's struggled to find a niche.
There was a world record attempt, but it got annihilated by Ben Rhodes soon after once the handwavium restruction was removed.
She spent a few years as an instructor for The Roughriders to pay for her own private asteroid fortress to start a martial arts school.
She tried to open a combat training school and it worked for a few years, even getting Stellvicorp as a client, but the location was a killer and they've been struggling to keep going since a centre opened on the moon.
She's tried to start a spacecraft manufacturer, but Asagiri's hasn't really taken off. Wining that championship earned some sort of interest - it didn't take long for the big names to come up with an answer, and the 'nobody ever got fired for buying IBM' effect took over.
That and a note of censure from the federation hanging over her head. Some people don't want to deal with her now because of that.
Then along comes the millenium and after a year of wrangling she's jammed into the parliament. It's a bad idea and she has to battle a parliament that treats her like a white blood cell treats a bacteria. She gets a few things done, but not half as much as she needs.
Nothing she's done since then has really stuck well enough to live off - I mean really, before the Lun mission, all anyone out there really thought about her was the Boskone War, as a warrior.
Then her brother's killed.
Just as I try to get out, the pull me back in.
Guess she just finally snaps and goes evil.
MirandaZZ
Posted on April 13th, 2025
I never liked her. I mean, I always suspected she had a cloudy Psychopass, even when the Queen had appointed her, but this is so much worse than I could've ever expected. She may be a cyber, but she's nothing like our Lady Mars at all. She just doesn't fit with us, does she?
And then you see videos like that and you have to ask if she's really the sort of person we want to allow in? There's no justice there. There's definitely no love. There's just violence. That's not what we're doing here. We want justice sure, but justice isn't arbitrarily blasting people out of the sky with a missile.
She doesn't deserve to be a citizen. Terminate with Prejudice.
Unless of course the unchecked Queen already knew about this. We really need a queen that can make Venus great....
Ennisman_04 (Rogue)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
::There's no justice there.
This isn't justice. This is Punishment.
- Frank Castle.
El_Presidente (In the Big House)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
That's not really an unusual story for a lot of people who came up at the same time.
The thing you have to remember is that she didn't really appearr in Fenspace until what, March 2012? That's right before the Boskon war kicked off.
So really, someone with her abilities instead of having time to establish themselves and do what they want to do - she gets sorta shuffled towards the frontlines and told to fight and she does that. But then the war she's preparred for ends and you have to ask, 'now what'?
Anyone that was established before the war has at least some connections to either build on during the war, or help them get established - while people arriving afterwards aren't weighed down by the baggage, or waiting to be demobbed, so they hit the ground running in the post war victory boom, leaving the warriors behind struggling to find something to do.
They're like the PC's who joined the game during the 'war' arc, built their characters to match, and then got a kick when th GM just sort of called an end to it and now they had to figure out what to do next - only they just weren't geared up for it so they sort of struggle if they don't have any prior experience.
Jordan Waide was another one, who after years on welfare, just jumped at the chance to do what she was good at, I guess.
Commando_77 (Learned Friend)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
But that's no excuse.
It doesn't excuse scattering someone's atoms to the solar wind because you're pissed at 'em. There's a place for understanding and there's a place for justice - and there's a place for keeping the rest of the Universe safe from something capable of doing things like that to a human being.
I mean. If she cant control herself and can't be controlled, what other option remains?
It's harsh, but it's fair. It's justice.
That wasn't a killing. It was a unilateral execution. Sanctioned or not, it has no place in a civilised sociey. And neither does anyone who practices it.
This is the differences betwen order, and disorder.
Which do you prefer?
El_Presidente (In the Big House)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
You can always tell the former yanks, can't you? That's not justice, that's punishment pron.
There's a big difference between a cold blooded killer, a hot-blood murder of passion, a reckless accident, and someone snapping under the stress of loosing a loved one. They're all different mindsets, invoking different crimes, with different punishements. Or, in some cases, treatment rather than punishment.
Honestly, put yourself in her shoes.
A lot of people could probably see themselves trying the same thing.
Some time with a fucking psychiatrist would be a better solution than an execution chamber.
Commando_77 (Learned Friend)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
But it won't being the dead back to life, either.
We can understand. We can sympathise. But we cannot condone.
We already have former criminals threatening to hack LEO databases, and actively supporting her in making a missile strike against whatever innocent settlement might be holding them.
A lot of us have been to war too, and we don't act like that? You don't see me going off on vigilante cruise, nor 90% of other veterans out there.
If we don't have law and order, what civilisation have we fought for?
Tagbar (Not a ripoff)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
I'm still hoping someone will confirm this as an OP, like BB said.
Jet was always cool in her own way and if you've ever met her and actually talked with her you'd get it - like talking with your favourite band after a concert. I did a magazine piece with her on the Highway Star years ago and I never felt threatened. I mean, I knew she had all this power and strength but she was always so precise and light, like you knew she was taking a great effort to keep you safe - and then we were both laughing at Bakuon together like she was just another fan.
It's sad to see something like this happening. I hope there's more to it than what it seems.
If there isn't. I hope someone's able to help her.
Faptron_Alpha (Banned from Argo)
Have you seen Gaige Kisaragi? Like, holy shit look at that picture on Asagiri.fen in that fortified suit. Once I beat it out of my system I couldn't help but notice a family similarity.
So. What's the relation between the two?
K_Lee_Spanner (Wrench Wench)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
It's the hair. I can rememer the amount of people who insisted Jet was related to Erin Simmah too, just because of the hair and eye colour.
And also. I'm jealous.
That's some biomod.
Needtocomeupwithaname (Fenspace Gargoyle) (Original Poster)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Well, this thread degenerated fast......
Mamabear sort of unofficially confirmed Jet as being a troubleshooter, but we're not sure if this is a troubleshooter mission or not.
Space Patrol will not comment on ongoing investigtion. They are asking those responsible to make contact with a Space Patrol facility where she will be given fair opportunity to explain herself.
Hiroshima has revoked Lun's registration - apparently on the pretext of not listing the missiles as an armament.
Parliament has been convened on Venus for an emergency session, but they won't be able to do anything until there's a conviction.
Settlements have already blacklisted Lun from docking. The Island and Port Phobos are the main ones so far.
There's also the usual shocked posts from friends asking her why, and that it's not to late to come back.
Only people who haven't said anything are SHIELD..... which might just say a lot if BB_Shotgun is right.
FranticBubbles (The one in the loop)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Not sure if it's related or not, but Frigga put up a red notice for all dockings a few days ago. Apparently, they managed to have a full-blown nuclear reactor fire without anyone noticing, including nearly a dozen radiation injuries.
They came within a whisker of becoming Pripyat in Space.
Teela_Free (AGZ: Frigga 77)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Another one?
And we don't hear about it until it shows up HERE?
We already had one six months ago. This place is falling apart.
Crystal_Soldier (True Senshi)
Posted on April 13th, 2025
Commando, there’re two different kinds of veterans of the Boskone war.
You’ve your people who saw enough of the elephant to say that, yeah they’ve seen war.
But at the end of the day they mostly did other things, from logistical support to medical or technical support. That’s most of you people out there.
You had your bad day.
You saw the elephant and it was as ugly as you thought it would be, but you didn’t really spend time with it. You know just enough to know it’s not something you never want to see again. You learned something about yourself, got the badge, then went and did other things.
Then you have your Jet’s, or your Garrets or Wolfboys who don’t just see the elephant – they live with it, day to day. Day after day, right at the teeth.
They’re the ones committing suicide at a rate two times higher than the average fen.
They’re the ones who still live with it every night. The Elephant’s in the living room.
This isn’t someone turning bad or going evil. This isn’t contagious boskonism.
Someone she saw as he brother just got killed, and she’s dealing with it the only way she knows how.
It’s a goddamn tragedy.
She doesn't need support on her mission.
She doesn't need a cell in a cold dark place.
She needs help before it gets worse.
Evans_01 (Ron/Hermione Shipper)
She rescued me on Jusenkyou. She saved our class.
By locking us in and destroying the door so nobody else could get to us.
I hope she's OK.
----
(Meta: I really amn't sure what I'm going for - except for a wide variety of natural reactions (Some support, some help, some commentar,y some vehement hatred) and maybe a look back on the historical context after 12 years, but it's a tough subject to put together. And it also is, kind of, what Jet's life looks like to outsiders - she never really sort of achieved major success, despite trying a lot of things. (Partly because I don't really want to unilaterally grant it, either, but that's a digression). Let's dare to do it and see what happens - even if it's a bit beyond my skill level to do it right after a week trying. Otherwise it gets boring again. There's another scene for the mainline with Wolfboy, but it can wait.)
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