Afternoon everyone. I'm the writer from Freedom of Philadelphia and saw the links so wanted to jump in on the discussion here. I'm going to try and respond to a few people at once, and well since it's my first post here so if I screw up anyone's names please forgive me.
Ayiekie
I don't have a "violent hatred" against the ACLU. What I am against is the hypocrisy of the ACLU. While they have worked many many times for the separation of Christianity/Judaism from public schools or even Universities that accept public funding they suddenly flip gears when Islam is concerned. I'm agnostic myself so this isn't about religion for me, but rather equality or balance. Don't be against religion in schools when it's Christianity then be ok with Islam. While you are correct that there have been times that ACLU has supported Christianity, the sum balance of their work has been against it, even when doing so contradicts previous stances by them. To say that the ACLU is neither left nor right is to ignore the body of their work. In addition the amount of funding received through Soros led/funded initiatives is mind boggling. If you read deeper into my page you will see that I've been anti-anything soros quite often. I found it highly ironic that in a situation where the ACLU is normally against Judaic-Christian faiths they suddenly back down and use a hygiene issue as their escape clause.
Rev Dark
I totally agree that a mop would of been a worthwhile and much more efficient solution. Perhaps even throw in 10 more dollars and post a "wet floor" sign for safety's sake.
On a side note, there were those that mentioned they would have no problem with this if the foot baths were communal i.e. available to any faith. However, if you look into the nature of Islam (a rather stringent and inflexible cult evidenced by it's lack of growth over the last 700 years or so) you would realize that it would not be acceptable to share a basin with Jews or even Christians, since they are "infidel" to them. I myself would have less of a problem if it was communal.
Finally, think about this for just a moment. A baptismal bath would not be acceptable on the grounds of the school, and in many cases neither would a chapel. What's really at issue is this, it's either acceptable to have religion interspersed with our campuses or it is not. For the ACLU to pick and choose which religious functions are ok for campuses is hypocrisy. On a final note, the Muslim community was ready to pay for the foot baths themselves but decided not to when the ACLU said it wasn't going to sue the school. At least they could of paid and saved the school the money. Thanks for the frank yet polite discussion I've seen here. I'll have to try and make it a point to come back more often.
Logan
Ayiekie
I don't have a "violent hatred" against the ACLU. What I am against is the hypocrisy of the ACLU. While they have worked many many times for the separation of Christianity/Judaism from public schools or even Universities that accept public funding they suddenly flip gears when Islam is concerned. I'm agnostic myself so this isn't about religion for me, but rather equality or balance. Don't be against religion in schools when it's Christianity then be ok with Islam. While you are correct that there have been times that ACLU has supported Christianity, the sum balance of their work has been against it, even when doing so contradicts previous stances by them. To say that the ACLU is neither left nor right is to ignore the body of their work. In addition the amount of funding received through Soros led/funded initiatives is mind boggling. If you read deeper into my page you will see that I've been anti-anything soros quite often. I found it highly ironic that in a situation where the ACLU is normally against Judaic-Christian faiths they suddenly back down and use a hygiene issue as their escape clause.
Rev Dark
I totally agree that a mop would of been a worthwhile and much more efficient solution. Perhaps even throw in 10 more dollars and post a "wet floor" sign for safety's sake.
On a side note, there were those that mentioned they would have no problem with this if the foot baths were communal i.e. available to any faith. However, if you look into the nature of Islam (a rather stringent and inflexible cult evidenced by it's lack of growth over the last 700 years or so) you would realize that it would not be acceptable to share a basin with Jews or even Christians, since they are "infidel" to them. I myself would have less of a problem if it was communal.
Finally, think about this for just a moment. A baptismal bath would not be acceptable on the grounds of the school, and in many cases neither would a chapel. What's really at issue is this, it's either acceptable to have religion interspersed with our campuses or it is not. For the ACLU to pick and choose which religious functions are ok for campuses is hypocrisy. On a final note, the Muslim community was ready to pay for the foot baths themselves but decided not to when the ACLU said it wasn't going to sue the school. At least they could of paid and saved the school the money. Thanks for the frank yet polite discussion I've seen here. I'll have to try and make it a point to come back more often.
Logan