The lack of quotes makes it really hard to work out who is saying what, but I'll do my best to figure it out.
*blink* Huh? What does not humans not being able to study chimps in ancient times have to do with human morality coming from religion?
Dolphins cooperate with and look after each other. Dolphins are not religious. Chimpanzees cooperate with and look after each other. Chimpanzees are not religious. Therefore, members of a species do not need religion to cooperate with and look after each other. It is a biological urge, and if you read the book I mentioned, it will explain why in a little more detail. I believe Richard Dawkins "The Selfish Gene" also covers the same topic.
Yep. Religion is a control mechanism for human morality, but not the cause of it.
People, for the most part, will look after friends and family the most. Back in the hunter gatherer days, those are the only people you would have dealt with.
Now, fast forward to a time where agriculture has become common, thus allowing large numbers of people to congregate together. You're not related to most of these people, so you don't have the urge to make sure that they are looked after in the same way that you would a friend or family member.
Insert religion: Love everyone like you would a family member. Help everyone that's in need. And if you don't, big angry father figure in the sky will punish you.
It's taking the basic biological urge and forcing people to extend it others.
3) Why?
No, all you proved is that the tooth fairy didn't come that particular time. Why not? Maybe it couldn't get in through the locked door. Maybe it just doesn't like that particular type of tooth.
Now, if you did that experiment millions of times across the globe, and no tooth fairy ever came, then that might suggest that there is no such thing, but it still doesn't really prove it.
Believing that everything is possible != Believing that something actually exists.
How do you distinguish between something like the tooth fairy and something like God? Neither can be proved to not-exist, although the huge lack of evidence that they do certainly indicates that they don't.
(Note: I'm not having a go at you. I just like to understand why some people think the way they do.)
Of course the US is going to score higher for sheer volume. It is a wealthy, developed country with 250 or so million people.
And while we're on the subject of rape and sex, here is a little quote I found somewhere:
If I hit you on the head with a rolling pin, would you mistake it for cooking?
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Through observations and study you could get the
results you quoted from chimps and dolphins but who in
ancient times would have done this with dolphins or even
been able to do this? Highly unlikely.
*blink* Huh? What does not humans not being able to study chimps in ancient times have to do with human morality coming from religion?
Dolphins cooperate with and look after each other. Dolphins are not religious. Chimpanzees cooperate with and look after each other. Chimpanzees are not religious. Therefore, members of a species do not need religion to cooperate with and look after each other. It is a biological urge, and if you read the book I mentioned, it will explain why in a little more detail. I believe Richard Dawkins "The Selfish Gene" also covers the same topic.
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As sad as it is some people need the stick to do good.
Yep. Religion is a control mechanism for human morality, but not the cause of it.
People, for the most part, will look after friends and family the most. Back in the hunter gatherer days, those are the only people you would have dealt with.
Now, fast forward to a time where agriculture has become common, thus allowing large numbers of people to congregate together. You're not related to most of these people, so you don't have the urge to make sure that they are looked after in the same way that you would a friend or family member.
Insert religion: Love everyone like you would a family member. Help everyone that's in need. And if you don't, big angry father figure in the sky will punish you.
It's taking the basic biological urge and forcing people to extend it others.
Quote:2) Only if people practice it, which they don't. Look at the incidence of teenage pregnancies for proof of that, which renders it next to useless.
Okay let's get a few points straight:
1) I'm not against condoms. I don't care of you use them or
not. It's your choice.
2)Abstinance is a better contreceptive than condoms. 100% fact.
3) I object to religious organizations being force to hand out
condoms. Period.
3) Why?
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Wanna bet? Any rational person can put a childs tooth under a pillow. lock the room up tight. and go in in the morning to see that the tooth is still there. I pretty much just proved it right there.
No, all you proved is that the tooth fairy didn't come that particular time. Why not? Maybe it couldn't get in through the locked door. Maybe it just doesn't like that particular type of tooth.
Now, if you did that experiment millions of times across the globe, and no tooth fairy ever came, then that might suggest that there is no such thing, but it still doesn't really prove it.
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I live by everything is possible til proven different though with a bit of common sense and logic thrown in.
Believing that everything is possible != Believing that something actually exists.
How do you distinguish between something like the tooth fairy and something like God? Neither can be proved to not-exist, although the huge lack of evidence that they do certainly indicates that they don't.
(Note: I'm not having a go at you. I just like to understand why some people think the way they do.)
Quote:So, Mr Media Mogul who owns billions is a better person for giving $1000 to charity than Mr Average Joe down the street who gives $100?
Also i suggest you check out the exact amounts
sent over to africa instead of the precentages. It
puts the US up there in the to 5 at least as I found out
in a previous post.
Of course the US is going to score higher for sheer volume. It is a wealthy, developed country with 250 or so million people.
And while we're on the subject of rape and sex, here is a little quote I found somewhere:
If I hit you on the head with a rolling pin, would you mistake it for cooking?