Quote:Or they could have just made the whole fucking thing up. Thats the far more realistic and probably explanation. You could of course make all manner of conspiracy theories mostly by reading the DaVinci Code you could also masturbate the latter would be a better use of your time.
Of course since the bible was written by people they could have omitted the most important part or just got it wrong.Then again if you really want to run the consiracy theory spiel the Royalty might have forced it's ommision as a
way to keep power.. or the church itself...then again it
could all well be just BS. I wasn't there so I don't know but neither were you.
Neither of us were there but we have access to a great deal of the material and can make some rather good inferences from it. Just like a detective and the associated lab techs can make sense of scene following a murder. We can trace religious worship all across the birthplace of Judeo Christian faith. We can see where the various stories emerged which ones were stolen from earlier faiths, which ones were adapted. What religious figures where transposed as one faith faded and another one emerged. Christianity is many things original is not one them. The same goes for nearly all other faiths one inevitable begets the next. Start with Friedman and Ehrman for the Judeo Christian side of things and then sidestep to Davis for a good overview of the early pre Judeo-Christian faiths.
Quote:No we are not at an impasse. Just because you thrive on ignorance it is no excuse to paint the rest of the world with the same tattered brush.
Well you don't understand what true faith is either so
I guess we are at in empass. Such is life at times.
True faith is easy to understand. It is the abandonment of reason. It is the abandonment of evidence. It is the pig-headed stubbornness to hold on to something in the face of hard, reproducible, data and logical thought. Think of it as a mind virus (meme) an idea that get lodged early in the grey folds of your brain and refuses all attempts to shake it loose. Religion is such a mind virus. The faithful are overwhelmingly of the faith that they were raised in as such mind viruses are transferred in the early years. There is the potential for some cross contamination in later years, but the majority of these are a product of early indoctrination.
True faith is not a virtue. It is an abandonment of our potential to discover the wonders of the universe around us, and even reach beyond this universe to the myriad of layers that support it (that is if you are interested in the hypothesis of Quantum Foam).
True faith is a fucking cop out. It is a po-dunk explanation for the universe for those whom expanded knowledge is seen as threatening. God all gods used to be the best explanations we had for things. Fire. Life. Death. Beginnings. Endings. We have much better explanations now. Explanations backed up by observable evidence; explanations that can be tests, verified and supported by a myriad of evidence.
And it is not taken on faith. The great strength of science is the capacity to self correct with the emergence of better theories, backed up by the scientific method, deepening our understanding of the universe. True faith is the opposite a stagnant pool of bronze age myth that resists change in the face of evidence, all the while insisting that their god or gods occupies the smaller and smaller niches where science has not yet shone an investigating light.
Shayne