Foxboy, sweetie, honey, perhaps you lose sight of the fact that I can and have posted ACTUAL NEWS ARTICLES, from a variety of respected sources, to back up my claim that the United States is engaging in torture and other atrocities.
You will note I did not deny the Holocaust, accuse Girl Scouts of anything, draw any comparisons to Nazis whatsoever, or talk about conspiracies.
I posted links to respected news sources. I expressed outrage at these things going on, and by the denial of jingoistic self-satisfied people like Necratoid that they do.
You apparently disapprove of that, and that's your right. Now, let me ask you a question:
Assume for a minute that all these things are, in fact, going on (I could keep posting more articles, but apparently that's what you consider fanatical behaviour). Now, why is it that people should NOT be offended? Why is it that we should not be outraged that the United States tossed aside the Geneva Conventions, tortures people in secret prisons, and that disicipline in Iraq has been left so slack that soldiers have raped, kidnapped and tortured innocent civilians?
If those things going on wouldn't cause you to get angry, might I ask what would? Might I ask at what point the actions of a country become so horrible that, in your worldview, you are allowed to get angry at them? At what point it is safe for you to look at someone who denies these things are happening and say "you bloody fool"?
When is it okay for you, Foxboy, to say "this is wrong and must stop"?
You will note I did not deny the Holocaust, accuse Girl Scouts of anything, draw any comparisons to Nazis whatsoever, or talk about conspiracies.
I posted links to respected news sources. I expressed outrage at these things going on, and by the denial of jingoistic self-satisfied people like Necratoid that they do.
You apparently disapprove of that, and that's your right. Now, let me ask you a question:
Assume for a minute that all these things are, in fact, going on (I could keep posting more articles, but apparently that's what you consider fanatical behaviour). Now, why is it that people should NOT be offended? Why is it that we should not be outraged that the United States tossed aside the Geneva Conventions, tortures people in secret prisons, and that disicipline in Iraq has been left so slack that soldiers have raped, kidnapped and tortured innocent civilians?
If those things going on wouldn't cause you to get angry, might I ask what would? Might I ask at what point the actions of a country become so horrible that, in your worldview, you are allowed to get angry at them? At what point it is safe for you to look at someone who denies these things are happening and say "you bloody fool"?
When is it okay for you, Foxboy, to say "this is wrong and must stop"?