Just So You Don't Think I'm Biased

[Fidoohki]

Fidoohki wrote.

Because I am seeing it from an early post 9/11 point of view without hindsight to 'correct' it. I'm assuming it was around


that time when it happened because I'm not sure when it happened and I'm not going to waste the time to look it up.

It is disquieting to see you cleave to a particular postion while admitting to being too bone fucking idle to actually educate yourself on the
position.

Fair enough. It was around right after 9/11 and it was at the request of a sitting 'wartime' president. Now since Wartime powers
weren't

really defined til a few years after this happened should they be retroactivey punished for it? I mean this isn't much different than those idiots

in California that want to nullify gay marraiges. Retroactively punishing people because the rules changed is just nuts.

Fidoohki also noted

I sure as hell don't want them to not try because someone might be embaressed or inconvienced.

So you are willing to give up the freedom and protection of the Constitution, and are willing to see others also lose that freedom in the process?

And you are willing to put others at an most likely higher risk of losing their lives just so you won't be inconvienced? I am and have been

talking minor loosening of protections not a total suspension of them. Heavily watched and monitored though.

One last Fidoohki pearl

Lastly I disagree to some extent. I think it is more of what level am I willing to give up my ideals for some security and safety.

Epicticus said "We must not believe the many, who say that only free people ought to be educated, but we should rather believe the philosophers who say
that only the educated are free." I note this in light of your own unwillingness to educate yourself on the situation. Here are two more quotes worth
noting in regards to your rather craven position.

Yes yes. You chastized me before on that. Point made. No need to spike the ball.

"The cost of freedom is always high, but Americans have always paid it. And one path we shall never choose, and that is the path of surrender, or
submission."




John Fitzgerald Kennedy




"Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security will not have, nor do they deserve, either one."




Benjamin Franklin

Wise and profound words but cold confort to the loved ones of people that died in an act that might have been prevented

if you didn't want to be 'inconvienced.'

And to close off, Thucydides




"The secret of happiness is freedom. The secret of freedom is courage."




If the government asks you to something illegal and/or unconstitutional, then it should be challenged. Openly

In a time of peace yes but what about war?