Part of Somalia's problems come from their own response to the problems caused by westerners during the cold war, which in turn has it roots in the history before then. sure those people starving and dieng in somalia don't deserve it, but if they kidnap people at gunpoint they are part of the problem.
The problem with using historical wrongs to justify what is done in the present leads to things like the isreal-palastine conflict, and if we really want all wrongs to be redressed then we should probably give Rome back it's empire. Tit for tat doesn't work and will just lead to more violence, there is a need for an international justice system that act on justice, not laws, and that has the power to enforce it's edicts. it would never work and no country would accept it's authority.
but without that we are left with laws, and if a goverment does't have laws limiting the fish catch then you can legaly fish as much as you want. the law is a really bad proxie for justice, but it is the best we have. Without that you get into trouble that what is considered just varies around the world.
I disagree they picked up a gun and thereby created a reasonable threat to everyone around them. If you pick up a lethal weapon you should be prepared for people to respond in kind. they threatened a hostage who had done nothing, should he not be rescued because his country bombed Somalia? by that reasoning it would be ok for a middle-eastern to torture an american because bush authorized it done on some middle eastern people. That is just flat out wrong, bush should go to prison for what he did, but John Doe american should not be punished for it.
Two wrongs don't make a right.,
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell."
The problem with using historical wrongs to justify what is done in the present leads to things like the isreal-palastine conflict, and if we really want all wrongs to be redressed then we should probably give Rome back it's empire. Tit for tat doesn't work and will just lead to more violence, there is a need for an international justice system that act on justice, not laws, and that has the power to enforce it's edicts. it would never work and no country would accept it's authority.
but without that we are left with laws, and if a goverment does't have laws limiting the fish catch then you can legaly fish as much as you want. the law is a really bad proxie for justice, but it is the best we have. Without that you get into trouble that what is considered just varies around the world.
Quote:Shooting a bunch of starving ex-fishermen and leaving again is no more ethically justifiable than what the pirates are doing.
I disagree they picked up a gun and thereby created a reasonable threat to everyone around them. If you pick up a lethal weapon you should be prepared for people to respond in kind. they threatened a hostage who had done nothing, should he not be rescued because his country bombed Somalia? by that reasoning it would be ok for a middle-eastern to torture an american because bush authorized it done on some middle eastern people. That is just flat out wrong, bush should go to prison for what he did, but John Doe american should not be punished for it.
Two wrongs don't make a right.,
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell."