Ayiekie Wrote:See, the difference here is that the Islamists want to enact genocide upon innocents in Israel and the west. (And before you say anything, no - not ALL Muslims. ) Whereas direct killing of the killers themselves is all that we want to do. And not even all the potential madman. Just the ones that get directly caught. Make an example of them and make the others afraid to act. As for those others with just a touch more common sense and self-preservation who are dissuaded from the path of violence, guess what - you just saved THEIR lives as well. Maybe they'll choose to do something more productive with their lives. At least more productive than throwing themselves uselessly into the meat grinder at the whim of asshole clerics who never EVER decide to take the suicide dive themselves.blackaeronaut Wrote:Sorry, I guess I did. But you know what the hell of it is? Islamic extremists think of mass murder as the will of God.Whereas you merely think of it as, quote, "cost-effective" and "economical". I mean, I don't like to Godwin, but, uh... your viewpoints are literally directly comparable to those of Nazis.
To say nothing of the fact that no, it didn't happen, no, it wouldn't have worked if it did (why people think pigs are Muslim Kryptonite is beyond me), and yes, there were "Muslim extremist attacks" in the 50 years after that. In fact, the British kind of incited a whole bunch of them in that little dust-up that happened immediately afterwards. Aside from being evil, your views are simplistic and grossly inaccurate. Which I guess adds fuel to the Nazi comparison.
Who's more Nazi-like? The people who want to kill innocents? Or the people who want to kill those who kill the innocents?
"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf." -- George Orwell
Mind you, I'm skeptical of the whole "pigs as kryptonite" thing myself. I think most Muslims would avoid them if they could, but not think they're going to hell if they can't. Them being reasonable people, after all.
But you know, it's funny that the more crazed and religious and into the whole terrorist end of the bell-curve you get, the more unreasonable people there are.
I suppose the real question is - would you make reasonable Muslims into unreasonable ones with such acts? Or would you tamp down on the violence? I know what you think is the case. But historically speaking, it doesn't seem so cut and dried. Sometimes it seems to work. Other times it doesn't.