I just checked in on this thread for only the second time since I posted it. And it seems to have taken a direction I hadn't expected it to. I didn't expect a discussion about global warming because that's actually not really what I made the post about. I was posting it because I was deeply shocked that ANY group - doesn't matter if it's a group I disagree with or not - would "go there" and use that kind of imagery. That they could possibly have thought it was a good idea and wouldn't hurt their cause. It's interesting that no-one is actually talking about that aspect of it, and instead went right past it to the AGW debate.
I'm not offended by you guys doing that, BTW. Just kind of bemused/amused. ("I think we left the antecedant back at the station!")
I don't really want to muster the mental organization to come up with a complete post debating the merits for/against AGW etc right NOW. Instead I'm going to go boot up City of Heroes and go have some mindless fun bashing bad guys. But I do expect to come back at some point soon and do so. And I may have some surprises for you.
Just as a toss out though - what would be the problem with the world being warmer anyway? As has been noted - it's been MUCH warmer in the past within recorded human history. And it's fluctuated back and forth before then and since. England used to have vineyards a few hundred years ago during one of those warm periods. (And in the other direction, in the early 1800s there was the Maunder minimum and the "Year without a Summer", so yeah - back and forth). If the world does get significantly warmer though, we'd simply adapt. More growing area in Canada and Russia for starters, etc. Warmer times have been GOOD for humanity. The Roman Empire prospered during one of those warm periods. And climate change was a major factor in its decline.
I'm not offended by you guys doing that, BTW. Just kind of bemused/amused. ("I think we left the antecedant back at the station!")
I don't really want to muster the mental organization to come up with a complete post debating the merits for/against AGW etc right NOW. Instead I'm going to go boot up City of Heroes and go have some mindless fun bashing bad guys. But I do expect to come back at some point soon and do so. And I may have some surprises for you.
Just as a toss out though - what would be the problem with the world being warmer anyway? As has been noted - it's been MUCH warmer in the past within recorded human history. And it's fluctuated back and forth before then and since. England used to have vineyards a few hundred years ago during one of those warm periods. (And in the other direction, in the early 1800s there was the Maunder minimum and the "Year without a Summer", so yeah - back and forth). If the world does get significantly warmer though, we'd simply adapt. More growing area in Canada and Russia for starters, etc. Warmer times have been GOOD for humanity. The Roman Empire prospered during one of those warm periods. And climate change was a major factor in its decline.