nemonowan Wrote:1 - WHO ON EARTH could possibly WANT climate change to be true? An apocalypse cult? That is the main problem: it is very bad news and most people would rather believe it is not true until the effects are too great to deny. And by that time there won't be much we can do about it (if we haven't reached that point yet)
People in colder climates perhaps
. People who can make money from the hysteria surrounding it. It is not bad news in and of itself, but it has been whipped up into bad news. Also, why should we do anything to stop it. The idea that Earth could turn into Venus is moronic at best. It'll get warmer, it'll get cooler... it's done so while we're here, it'll continue to do so long after we've some mysterious nanovirus transmutes the human race into naturalist catgirls living in harmony with mother nature. Quote:2 - When those who disagree are a very vocal minority of the scientific community, and they happen to be aligned with the position of the deepest pockets around, it is them who are primarily suspect. If all you care about is money, there is a lot more to go around in the side with less supporters, less evidence and more shouting.
And how many currently accepted 'facts' started out as being proposed by a vocal minority?
Quote:3 - The commercial agenda of "green" companies isn't being driven by scientists but by marketers. Expect a lot more of that as more and more companies realize that they can also make profits by tweaking their old products and rebranding them "green"
Which of course, triggers the real problem I talked about earlier. Science is being driven by marketing needs on both sides, and this marketing is encouraging a consumerist 'throwaway' culture that is doing the real harm. Or perhaps I'm just seeing corporate demons behind every advert. I have a tendency to assume that the vast majority of what I encounter day to day is just feeding the marketer's encouragement to consume and purchase crap I don't really need.
Quote:4 - I should also point out a trend that climate deniers are starting to switch from "climate isn't changing" to "Ok, it is changing, but humanity couldn't possibly affect that so it is all natural and not our fault, keep calm and carry on business as usual"
I never said humanity couldn't possibly cause the effect.... in fact, I doubt as a collective we'd ever be able to stop or truly mitigate it's effects. Not when so much of our infrastructure, so much of our way of life generates Co2, or any number of other pollutants. Never mind that, within the next century or so, we're going to stop burning fossil fuels whether we like it or not, so we'll have to ween ourselves off it eventually.
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