Quote:People in colder climates perhaps
. People who can make money from the hysteria surrounding it.
That's like saying iodine vendors want more nuclear plants because they'll make a killing when they fail.
Quote: It is not bad news in and of itself, but it has been whipped up into bad news.
Tell it to the micronesians.
Islands have already disappeared
Quote:Also, why should we do anything to stop it. The idea that Earth could turn into Venus is moronic at best. It'll get warmer, it'll get cooler... it's done so while we're here
Let's see... Because it is the first time in our history that warming is being at the very least compounded by human action? And that unlike solar activity or other causes an increase in greenhouse gases is going to take a long time to disminish? And because it runs the risk of of
becoming a natural-fueled vicious circle? And because Earth doesn't need to become anywhere near Venus for the effects to be catastrophic (whether
ecologically or
economically)?
Quote:And how many currently accepted 'facts' started out as being proposed by a vocal minority?
Climate change itself, to begin with. The difference is that nobody paid them to scream against a well supported consensus, but they gathered over decades the evidence that build the consensus.
It's not because someone is a "maverick" running against the herd that they are right or even honest.
Quote:this marketing is encouraging a consumerist 'throwaway' culture that is doing the real harm.
I have seen a lot of pseudo-green products that are quite preposterous, but they tend to pose against said 'throwaway' culture. Then again I'm not in the USA so maybe things have devolved faster there.
Quote:Or perhaps I'm just seeing corporate demons behind every advert. I have a
tendency to assume that the vast majority of what I encounter day to
day is just feeding the marketer's encouragement to consume and purchase
crap I don't really need.
That actually very wise and I agree. But remember that even if Nike is trying to sell you Air Soles, gravity is not a lie.
Quote:I never said humanity couldn't possibly cause the effect.... in fact, I doubt as a collective we'd ever be able to stop or truly mitigate it's effects. Not when so much of our infrastructure, so much of our way of life generates Co2, or any number of other pollutants. Never mind that, within the next century or so, we're going to stop burning fossil fuels whether we like it or not, so we'll have to ween ourselves off it eventually.
Indeed, they are two crises that go hand in hand and it looks like they are going to hit us at the same time. And that makes it worse, because preparing for either will already take more resources than we are willing to spare (and the more we wait, the more it will take and the less will be available)