Okay, here's the graphs...
Employment during the Clinton and Bush Jr. Administrations. Keep in mind, the figures on the left represent jobs in the thousands. (120,000 = 120,000,000)
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As I said before, pretty straightforward growth, save for a brief sputter in 2001. (Does the Bureau of Labor Statistics go by fiscal years?) But, in 2007 the Recession really started to hit, and you can see how things started to get bad in 2008.
Now, here's a closer look at Bush Jr's second term and Obama's current administration.
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Epic. By Obama's first year he managed to stop the recession dead in it's tracks. Since then, things have been touch-and-go...
Norway, the problem with your analogy is that it doesn't really apply to what's happening now. It's more like right after the Poor Men gets to see what they were gonna have they get thrown out after the Rich Man whispered something in the matre d's ear (this would be the political lobbyists pushing for the reduction in social benefits), then has the Middle Class men pick up the tab of the Poor Men, then the Rich Man gives the Middle Class Men the steak and potatoes (again, reduction in social benefits) while he takes the shrimp scampi away in doggy bags (Bush tax Cuts).
If you can show me solid figures, though, I'll gladly take your argument more seriously. But right now, I'm mainly concerned with where these people are morally justified in asking for more money when it appears that they're just pocketing it. The figures I posted are not mere analogies - they are facts. We've lost more than 7 million jobs and we need to do something to bring those jobs back and then some.
Employment during the Clinton and Bush Jr. Administrations. Keep in mind, the figures on the left represent jobs in the thousands. (120,000 = 120,000,000)
As I said before, pretty straightforward growth, save for a brief sputter in 2001. (Does the Bureau of Labor Statistics go by fiscal years?) But, in 2007 the Recession really started to hit, and you can see how things started to get bad in 2008.
Now, here's a closer look at Bush Jr's second term and Obama's current administration.
Epic. By Obama's first year he managed to stop the recession dead in it's tracks. Since then, things have been touch-and-go...
Norway, the problem with your analogy is that it doesn't really apply to what's happening now. It's more like right after the Poor Men gets to see what they were gonna have they get thrown out after the Rich Man whispered something in the matre d's ear (this would be the political lobbyists pushing for the reduction in social benefits), then has the Middle Class men pick up the tab of the Poor Men, then the Rich Man gives the Middle Class Men the steak and potatoes (again, reduction in social benefits) while he takes the shrimp scampi away in doggy bags (Bush tax Cuts).
If you can show me solid figures, though, I'll gladly take your argument more seriously. But right now, I'm mainly concerned with where these people are morally justified in asking for more money when it appears that they're just pocketing it. The figures I posted are not mere analogies - they are facts. We've lost more than 7 million jobs and we need to do something to bring those jobs back and then some.