Star Ranger4 Wrote:*Strikes away the flamables and clears the decks for action*I never had anything ill to say about what Logan's brother did as far as defending himself. From a tactical standpoint, he did the right thing in letting his enemy get close like that and delivering a 1HK. From an ethical standpoint, what else could he have done? Going to the police does not guarantee one's safety.
All right the ruddy lot of you. Quite a bit of this has devolved into pointless back and forths and are NO LONGER central to the issue.
Those of you who have a problem with what Logan's brother Dan did... WTF are you thinking? DID YOU NOT READ? THOSE GUYS CAME TO HIM. BLOCKED HIM IN. IOW, They were planning to commit Murder in the first degree. The sort of thing that gets other people executed. And its fairly clear that execution was exactly what was on their minds.
Second of all... People go where there is work. Its not the US economy, but rather that Mexico's is SO FUCKED ITS NOT FUCKING FUNNY. You wanna solve the illegal immigrants problem? F'ing invade Mexico, shoot everyone in their government as corrupt, and then rebuild it correctly from the ground up. Of course, given that we seem to not be doing much better as far our own civil responsibilities
Thirdly, far to many US citizens have a damn sense of entitelment. They'd rather sit on the damn dole or other social payments because getting a job is too much work. We dont LIKE to get our hands dirty. And in some cases what work that IS available actually pays LESS than sitting on our arses.
BA, do you know why that damn flow valve for the 5" gun costs so much? Government regs. the Manufacturer is required to perform like 17zillion tests on it and keep track of EVERYTHING about that flow valve, right back to where the ore for the metal was mined from. For certain equipment, yes it makes sense. but when you apply that same level of tracking and culpabiity to non mission critical items? you get 17m toilet seats.
AND, JUST TO PEEVE EVERYONE I MIGHT HAVE MISSED:
For good or ill, this is EXACTLY what is both right and wrong with this country. When we are of a single mind of something (Hitler must be removed from power, We WILL go to the moon) we can do amazing things. When we cant make up our minds... well...
Mexico is fucked, but so are we: we're recovering from a very nasty recession that was very nearly a depression and from fighting what was essentially two wars and trying to rebuild two countries. We cannot afford to do the same with a third!
Of course we got issues people that feel they're entitled. The American people are long overdue for a paradigm shift, but at the rate things are going it looks like we're gonna blow the motor. People have gotten so set in there ways that it will take the political equivalent of the Chernobyl Disaster to make people wake up.
Star Ranger: there's gotta be a way to cut back on all that bureaucracy. QA is important for stuff like that - I will not deny it - but there comes a point where there's little else you can do except pray to whatever deity you worship, if any.
And hell yes, we are muddled like no other generation has been before. There is no majority, only highly vocal minorities. If anything, they should call this Generation OMGWTFBBQLOLROFLCOPTER.