The 2nd Crimean War?

[Logan Darklighter]

ordnance11 wrote:

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And giving the order to go after Bin Ladin despite the advice of everyone not to do it?

You might think this is verging into "Tin-Foil Hat" territory, but I'm not fully convinced Obama actually gave that order himself. There's at least anecdotal evidence that Leon Panetta and possibly even Hillary Clinton did an "end run" around Valerie Jarrett in order to make it a "fait-accompli" and then allowed Obama to take the credit. 
But regardless - other than that ONE example, everything else he's ever done has backfired badly or gone awry. Benghazi anyone?

The problem I see is this. There are several ex-Warsaw Pact countries who made the decision to join NATO. A few of them on the borders of the Ukraine. If Putin swallows up the Ukraine with a peep from anyone, you'll see a guerrilla campaign start from the borders of those countries. Like what is happening now with Chechnya. Then the shooting war with NATO will really start. A destabilized Eastern Europe is not something the West wants. Look at what happened in the 90's with the break-up of Yugoslavia. The Germans, French and the UK will want to act. And if they do, we get pulled in.
I'd rather we do the show of force now and hopefully stop a shooting war rather than cave-in and get the war anyway.

Not going to happen. We - and by "we" I mean the Obama White House - are going to sit on our hands while making diplomatic noises to try and sound tough but we are no longer fooling anyone anymore. Particularly not Putin.

Everything else you say sounds pretty spot on though. It's going to get far uglier and it could be prevented. But Obama/Kerry etc. are simply going to let it happen.