The 2nd Crimean War?

[Logan Darklighter]

ordnance11 wrote:

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Dartz wrote:

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Quite frankly, the Ukraine can go spin. It's not my problem. I don't want to make it my problem. I don't want to make it my friend's problem. I certainly don't want a full-blown war over what is, for the most part still an internal Ukrainian matter. Russian intervention is arguable, when half of the country is actively demanding Russian troops to move in. Doing anything in the Ukraine will only end up being a bloody clusterfuck at best.

And I'd argue that Neville Chamberlain may have made the right call. History grants him an unfair reputation, in part because of Winston Churchill's autobiography, but the argument could be made that the United Kingdom was in no way able to stand by Czechoslovakia militarily in 1938, and the resulting war could've been disastrous. A year made all the difference in preparation and re-armamanet.

Funny that Putin used the same reason for invading Georgia in 2008.
As for throwing Czechoslovakia under the bus, the general concensus among historians is that had war been declared in 1938, the Germans would had lost. They were not ready. They were still trying to absorb the Austrian army and they were going broke. The Sudetenland has some formidable fortifications and there were only 2 panzer divisions at that times. The PZI's were no more than rolling mg nests. There was a very good possibility that the German High command would had have Hitler arrested. The French army was much more stronger than the Germans. Hitler bluffed the Brits and the French and won.

That is entirely correct. I was considering looking that information up just to make sure I had it all straight when I noticed that you had posted it.