A Modest Proposal

[robkelk]

As a proud climate realist I have no problem with NASA being sold to the highest bidder. I want the real scientific data published because on the rare occasions the public actually find the raw data, it has always shown that NASA have "adjusted" the figures to "show" global warming.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/1136 ... rming.html

[better source needed]

Reading that article, I see that Christopher Booker has no idea how statistics works.

Think this is just fake news? Lets look at something easily measured - whether or not the Arctic is sufficiently ice free in summer for a boat to travel to the North pole.

Way to move the goalposts, dude. That's like saying "let's see whether a high-jumper can jump over a ten-storey building, and if he can't, high-jumping as an Olympic sport is fake."

If we wait until the North Pole is ice-free, then it'll be far too late to fix the problem.

Change which "NP" you're looking at - instead of looking at the North Pole, look at the Northwest Passage. I'll wait for you to find the numbers yourself and run your own historical statistical comparison.

If climate change models are accurate then why do scientists get the prediction wrong every single year? And if they cannot predict sea ice within 12 months, why should I trust their predictions for 12 years or 12 decades?

Are they getting the predictions wrong? Or are the predictions within the stated margin of error (necessary because all humans, including you and me, are fallible)?

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/20/globa ... c-sea-ice/

[better source needed]

This is a biased source. Please provide an additional source that is not on the conservative end of the spectrum, so that political bias can be cancelled out.

Better yet, start with a neutral source so that the political biases don't need to be cancelled out in the first place.

Personally I put my faith in the solar based predictions that not only allows for previous Ice Ages (unlike the current Global Warming theory which states ALL climate change is man made

[dubious - discuss] [citation needed]

so QED an ice age could never have happened) but also they predict the next significant temperature change will be downwards.

http://www.naturalnews.com/054990_ice_a ... spots.html

[unreliable source?]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natural_News: "Natural News (formerly NewsTarget, which is now a separate sister site) is a website for the sale of various dietary supplements, promotion of alternative medicine, controversial nutrition and health claims,[2] scientific fake news,[3] and various conspiracy theories,[4] such as "chemtrails", chemophobic claims (including the purported dangers of fluoride in drinking water,[5] anti-perspirants, laundry detergent, monosodium glutamate, aspartame), and purported health problems caused by allegedly "toxic" ingredients in vaccines,[2] including the now-discredited link to autism.[6] It has also spread conspiracy theories about the Zika virus allegedly being spread by genetically modified mosquitoes[7] and purported adverse effects of genetically modified crops, as well as the farming practices associated with and foods derived from them.[8]"

Given that description, why should I consider Natural News to be any more reliable than the Weekly World News?

Finally, a quick comment on the subject of cutting irrelevant government.  If I was a U.S. citizen I would have been a Ron Paul voter.  I also don't see why Tanks and Military planes shouldn't be covered under the right to bear arms except for the obvious cost and maintenance issues.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/44942719

Mark

The USA's "right to bear arms" is for the militia - it says so right in the Second Amendment. Join the militia, get your training, show your militia need, and get the militia officers to issue you a tank or military aircraft, and that's fine. Get one for yourself without having any idea how to use it, and you're a danger to both yourself and others.

(No officers and discipline in the group? Then it isn't a militia, it's just an armed mob.)
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Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012