At least in Jadeite's case, I'm not entirely sure the reputation is deserved -- as Dungeon Keeper Ami points out, his specialization seems to be mostly illusions. Admittedly huge, often solid illusions, which I'm going to use to justify various attacks and defenses, but still...
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.
-- Bob
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Then the horns kicked in...
...and my shoes began to squeak.