Okay, I've read the Dirty Pair part of the Legion's Quest crossover and figured out that that's linked to Revenge Wars. This is getting highly irksome. RW is closely linked with the "animated actors" conceit, and it's mind-boggling trying to figure out how that holds together. And I'm still trying to figure out what would happen if somebody wound up in the 1/0 world. And what about worlds which aren't logically and internally consistent, like, I dunno, the Left Behind-verse? If Doug ended up in Star Wars, and tried to figure out how Coruscant was thermodynamically possible, what would he learn? Or try this - "once upon a time there was a world in which there was a complete and consistent set of axioms for all of mathematics." An alternate version of Kurt Gödel goes to that world I just described using a Burroughs Irrelevancy Drive or whatever - do his theorems hold?
Another thought: It's impossible for any of these travelers - Twister, Doug, Titanite, whoever - to end up in the "true canon" of, say, the Marvel Universe. If they go there, it would be in a fanfic, and therefore by definition not the "true" canon. To go to the canon Earth-616, the author would need the authorization of Marvel Comics. Consider that: for someone from universe A to go to universe B, somebody in universe C needs to get permission from somebody else in universe C. How is that possible, under the framework these stories operate on?
More RW ideas: 1) Ranma turns out to have written a Dragonball Z fanfic, and the DBZ cast comes to get revenge on HIM during the revengefic-fest. 2) The cast of 1/0, after their implied ending, hear about the reverse insertions - maybe somebody from the FFML lives in Portland - and they protest the anime characters' actions, arguing that it is an author's right and responsibility to cause conflict in their stories, and so forth. (The whole RW idea strikes me very strongly of 1984 - punishment for "thoughtcrime." What's the substantial difference between imagining something and writing it, anyway?) The problem with this is timing - 1/0 started in 2000 and ended in 2003.
I still haven't started on a multiverse-map - what's a good way to make something like that? Fnord, how'd you make the story-crossover-map? Would something like a mind-mapping program work, or would I need to break out the GIMP? Speaking of the map, I don't quite understand the "indirect links," except that LQ1 is effectively an Undocumented Features fanfic.
Another thought on what Evil Midnight Lurker said about superficial similarity that I found easier to understand, not being really familiar with BGC - the Nyannichuan. Twister got hit with a version that specifically gives you the appearance of Onna-Ranma - or, presumably, the girl who drowned in the spring years ago. Currently, I believe the theory is that it just turns you into a girl version of YOURSELF. So other Ranmaverses have different Nyannichuan curses. Yet the bulk of them, in their initial state, conform to a story created in other universes by a manga-ka named Rumiko Takahashi. (Yet Another Idea - a universe in which the Ranma ½ manga exists, and is written by a Rumiko Takahashi, but is substantially different from the manga we know.)
I've started developing my own theory and vocabulary for fictionality, but this post is getting pretty long as it is, and that's the sort of thing that really needs its own post. Anybody interested?
Gah. One MORE thought (two, counting "I really need to learn to organize my thoughts in forum posts better"). Does Revenge Wars, or any other story in the space, connect with the universe/multiverse/whatsit of "The Bet?"
Pronounced "shy guy."
Another thought: It's impossible for any of these travelers - Twister, Doug, Titanite, whoever - to end up in the "true canon" of, say, the Marvel Universe. If they go there, it would be in a fanfic, and therefore by definition not the "true" canon. To go to the canon Earth-616, the author would need the authorization of Marvel Comics. Consider that: for someone from universe A to go to universe B, somebody in universe C needs to get permission from somebody else in universe C. How is that possible, under the framework these stories operate on?
More RW ideas: 1) Ranma turns out to have written a Dragonball Z fanfic, and the DBZ cast comes to get revenge on HIM during the revengefic-fest. 2) The cast of 1/0, after their implied ending, hear about the reverse insertions - maybe somebody from the FFML lives in Portland - and they protest the anime characters' actions, arguing that it is an author's right and responsibility to cause conflict in their stories, and so forth. (The whole RW idea strikes me very strongly of 1984 - punishment for "thoughtcrime." What's the substantial difference between imagining something and writing it, anyway?) The problem with this is timing - 1/0 started in 2000 and ended in 2003.
I still haven't started on a multiverse-map - what's a good way to make something like that? Fnord, how'd you make the story-crossover-map? Would something like a mind-mapping program work, or would I need to break out the GIMP? Speaking of the map, I don't quite understand the "indirect links," except that LQ1 is effectively an Undocumented Features fanfic.
Another thought on what Evil Midnight Lurker said about superficial similarity that I found easier to understand, not being really familiar with BGC - the Nyannichuan. Twister got hit with a version that specifically gives you the appearance of Onna-Ranma - or, presumably, the girl who drowned in the spring years ago. Currently, I believe the theory is that it just turns you into a girl version of YOURSELF. So other Ranmaverses have different Nyannichuan curses. Yet the bulk of them, in their initial state, conform to a story created in other universes by a manga-ka named Rumiko Takahashi. (Yet Another Idea - a universe in which the Ranma ½ manga exists, and is written by a Rumiko Takahashi, but is substantially different from the manga we know.)
I've started developing my own theory and vocabulary for fictionality, but this post is getting pretty long as it is, and that's the sort of thing that really needs its own post. Anybody interested?
Gah. One MORE thought (two, counting "I really need to learn to organize my thoughts in forum posts better"). Does Revenge Wars, or any other story in the space, connect with the universe/multiverse/whatsit of "The Bet?"
Pronounced "shy guy."