Bob Schroeck Wrote:Depends on how you define "ultra". Doug is four and a half times as fast as J. Average Normal when it comes to combat initiative, and gets three to four actions for every one said normal gets.
As I’ve never played V&V, the question comes, is it like Hero where a normal person gets 2 actions in a turn and a normal super can have up to (or, in rare cases more than) 12 actions? Or is it like D&D where turns are longer and some people can have more actions as they improve. Because of the way GURPS works (which I'm sure you know), with everyone getting an action every turn, three-to-four actions would be two or three levels of Altered Time Rate.
I have no problem with that, as long as that's what Doug has. And, that's not to say that, certain songs can't change his form into having some ATR or Extra Attacks. Or, my favorite (and my player's least favorite), an AoE, selective area, Affliciton that gives Decreased Time Rate.
Bob Schroeck Wrote:Okay, that's hard to say. Doug's used it only once in-game, and once in-story; it's difficult to generalize from that. I'm also unable to look up the V&V mechanics to see what, if anything, the subject has to do in the way of a roll. I think it's completely on Doug's side, and it's a straight on raise, no chance of failure. I do remember that the power cost of Resurrection is dramatic -- all his power points and all but one HP, which is why he collapsed after raising the two kids in DW2.
Oh, yes, and there is that. The song specifies, "Two hearts that lost the beat will now resume/The gift of life extension/By divine intervention". Doug can raise two people at once.
Oh, well, that’ll be significantly cheaper as it requires him use it on two people at once. There’s no reason that we can’t poke more limitations on it. And I'm sure Doug hated that last line . . ..
What it comes down to is: how powerful can a song make him? What's the most amazing thing he's ever done? (PM Incomming, Bob)
Bob Schroeck Wrote:Correct.
And well you do. Since I essentially invented Morph as it currently exists, you'd think I'd be a good source, but... it's been a few years, and the 4E version is slightly different from what I created for The Book From Hell Shapeshifters.
I'm pretty lucky that, after a rocky start, Kromm actually likes me. And, once again, Dr. Kromm comes through for us.
Mark Skarr Wrote:Sorry to pester you, but, I'm back with a Morph question (I'm not that familiar with it, so please have pity).
The character in question can change forms when exposed to music, and only when exposed to specific songs. So, in order to use Template A, they must hear Song A. In order to use Template B, they must hear Song B. They cannot activate Template A with Song B, or any other song, or anything else. They must hear Song A and only Song A. Also, if they hear Song A, Template A becomes active, whether they want it to or not.
So, my question is:
Does this character qualify for "Cannot Memorize Forms?"
A. Yes, they are not memorizing forms, each form is activated by an Uncontrolled Trigger.
B. No, they must have all the forms memorized, but are still functioning from an Uncontrolled Trigger.
C. Where do you come up with things like this?
My logic, is, mechanically, the Song is the sample they need to change forms. As long as it plays, they can use the template, but the moment it ends, or changes, the template reverts or changes.
But, it wouldn't be the first time I'm totally off my rocker.
Kromm Wrote:I would say so . . . because, well, the character can't memorize forms! I could imagine another character with the same music-themed ability but who can go through her iTunes library and assign songs to new forms, or even compose a song for each new form. She would clearly be better-off than this one, who can only turn into the specific forms associated with a particular repertoire. At best, she can count on the GM being evil and inventing song/form combos of which she isn't even aware. That sounds like a valid limitation.
(As I make a lot of female characters, Kromm figured it was one of mine ;-P)
Oh, and by the way, Bob, my sister loved Shapeshifters.
Bob Schroeck Wrote:If you think that works best, cool. In V&V terms, Doug is as fit and hardy as a normal human can possibly get, with a score of 18, but the effects of the stat are far more vaguely defined than the GURPS equivalent.
With a HT of 14+Very Fit he’s only going to fail a HT roll on a 17 or 18 . . . precisely what he’d fail on with a HT of 20, or a 30, or a 40. On the other hand, he can’t soak very many penalties. One way or the other Doug has Very Fit.
The stats I was going to go with were:
ST 14 (2x as strong as a normal human)
DX 20 (maybe more, but I was pegging him at 20 for the moment)
IQ 13 (genius level, but not hyper-intelligent)
HT 14 (extremely healthy)
I don’t have a problem with Doug having a HT of 20. It just doesn’t come up much in the stories of how healthy he is beyond “healthy.”