While I agree that things that are written specifically to hose one charicter are often beyond annoying, I point to the resent cannon Naruto Manga... where Sakura has proven she can actually fight now. So instead of having her stand around uselessly... she gets knocked out from a shockwave at the start of the fight (though this is used to make us hate Psy more) and later shows up only after they kill the guy their fighting... only to send her to another fight that is over once she got there. Hosing a character to prove the awesome of another is a part of the cannon in Naruto. For instance, Tenten seems to exist for the purpose of introducing Temari as awesome in the rigged qualifier exame... that and filling a slot on Team Guy.
That aside, how is Kakashi shown to be bad? Keep in mind this story is done from the perspective of a madman. One who jumps to conclusions. Conclusions like Ryoga Hibiki of drugs would make.
All I can think of that Kakashi does onscreen outside the norm is run Naruto through after he literally distracted Sasuke with extreme prejudice while epicly cheering someone on as they killed Sasuke, his teammate. Naruto deserved more than he go for that. What else Kakashi does, that we can confirm, is give Sasuke a few scrolls. Which Sasuke doesn't master and leaves around partically learned or not gotten to.
To justify this Naruto hating Sasuke he starts making things up to justify the level of hate he wants. For instance, he decides that he could have learned many of these moves in less than a week preorginal run though of this month. To justify this logic he had to figure in that this involved doing nothing else for the week... repeatedly injured himself to the point he needs to regenerate and spending more chakra that Sasuke can make in a month, daily. Totally ignoring the limits physical limits of other people... like not being able to regenerate crippling injuries near instantaniously. These are the extents he has to go through to justify hating Kakashi.
This Naruto is so screwed up he apparently never bothered ask Sasuke, Kakashi, Sakura, or anyone else about these scrolls. He keeps covering things up that will not matter in a few hours due to reset. Note he never does something like mock Sasuke for putting so little effort into securing his own appartment. He gave up mocking Sasuke for not noticing Naruto had spent weeks raiding his appartment... infavor of making snipes that don't matter about the ease of learning these camping techs.
The whole 'Setting Sasuke up for being castrated' was not meant as Sasuke bashing so much as showing that this Naruto had gone totally off the deep end. Its rather like kidnapping a Groundhog and teaching him to drive.... and instructing him 'Don't drive angry'.
I understand your points here, Epsilon, but its not a story of redemption... its a story of insanity and deconstructing the usual Fanific of time loops (you did one of these on Crossovers yourself, so you should get that much). Naruto is a prankster. Not near this malignant, however knowing that your actions has no effect on existance besides gaining him knowledge and memories... and its silly to think that he wouldn't do strange things to blow off steam. Sasuke is his rival... and most people would do mean things to their rival if it has no lasting effect. This is like punch them through walls... this is the same thing, only deranged by no consequences.... Its like a gamer doing stupid things after saving the game. And I also think this is Naruto bashing, not Sasuke bashing. These justifications are all about this Naruto's warped world view, not cannon Sasuke.
Also, 'heel turns' can eventually be reversed. If I remember correctly your opwn deconstruction was in 3 phases... This story is still somewhere in a phase 2.
Its a rather minor continuity edit to have him not meet Gaara in town.
Those were examples of sidequests he could do to stop sound from being as effective in battle. He could find these things out... however he hasn't yet... that would involve the above Cranial Rectal Deinsertion I mentioned.
That aside, how is Kakashi shown to be bad? Keep in mind this story is done from the perspective of a madman. One who jumps to conclusions. Conclusions like Ryoga Hibiki of drugs would make.
All I can think of that Kakashi does onscreen outside the norm is run Naruto through after he literally distracted Sasuke with extreme prejudice while epicly cheering someone on as they killed Sasuke, his teammate. Naruto deserved more than he go for that. What else Kakashi does, that we can confirm, is give Sasuke a few scrolls. Which Sasuke doesn't master and leaves around partically learned or not gotten to.
To justify this Naruto hating Sasuke he starts making things up to justify the level of hate he wants. For instance, he decides that he could have learned many of these moves in less than a week preorginal run though of this month. To justify this logic he had to figure in that this involved doing nothing else for the week... repeatedly injured himself to the point he needs to regenerate and spending more chakra that Sasuke can make in a month, daily. Totally ignoring the limits physical limits of other people... like not being able to regenerate crippling injuries near instantaniously. These are the extents he has to go through to justify hating Kakashi.
This Naruto is so screwed up he apparently never bothered ask Sasuke, Kakashi, Sakura, or anyone else about these scrolls. He keeps covering things up that will not matter in a few hours due to reset. Note he never does something like mock Sasuke for putting so little effort into securing his own appartment. He gave up mocking Sasuke for not noticing Naruto had spent weeks raiding his appartment... infavor of making snipes that don't matter about the ease of learning these camping techs.
The whole 'Setting Sasuke up for being castrated' was not meant as Sasuke bashing so much as showing that this Naruto had gone totally off the deep end. Its rather like kidnapping a Groundhog and teaching him to drive.... and instructing him 'Don't drive angry'.
I understand your points here, Epsilon, but its not a story of redemption... its a story of insanity and deconstructing the usual Fanific of time loops (you did one of these on Crossovers yourself, so you should get that much). Naruto is a prankster. Not near this malignant, however knowing that your actions has no effect on existance besides gaining him knowledge and memories... and its silly to think that he wouldn't do strange things to blow off steam. Sasuke is his rival... and most people would do mean things to their rival if it has no lasting effect. This is like punch them through walls... this is the same thing, only deranged by no consequences.... Its like a gamer doing stupid things after saving the game. And I also think this is Naruto bashing, not Sasuke bashing. These justifications are all about this Naruto's warped world view, not cannon Sasuke.
Also, 'heel turns' can eventually be reversed. If I remember correctly your opwn deconstruction was in 3 phases... This story is still somewhere in a phase 2.
Its a rather minor continuity edit to have him not meet Gaara in town.
Quote:You do realise that you just argued that Naruto didn't know the head of sound is in charge of sound ninjas. Also, he can figure all this stuff out if he stops trying to start the game with the end boss battle.
Why doesn't Naruto disrupt Orochimaru's plans by killing the Sound team? Because he doesn't know that they work for Orochimaru.
Those were examples of sidequests he could do to stop sound from being as effective in battle. He could find these things out... however he hasn't yet... that would involve the above Cranial Rectal Deinsertion I mentioned.