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I can see Madigan tracking down Jeena Maslo and making her security chief of the new IDEC building. If Ohara and others are nervous around Leon, how much worse would it be to be with the person who mentored Leon? It would also be a smart move to keep IDEC from going down the route of so many other branches of Genom. IDEC is treading in an area that is very dangerous.
IIRC Jeena wasn't a cop, she was part of the JSDF before being transfered over to ADPolice wheras Leon was drafted from a beat cop to ADPolice after taking down a sexaroid.
Leon is so tough is because he was part of the ADPolice when it was a subdivision of the JSDF. He's a cop turned militray police in a department that was constantly being regulated by Genom to be ineffective. I wonder if the ADP still have their old vehicles.
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There was a three-part OAV called "Paradise Dolls" which is apparently considered canon which deals with a special subdivision of the AD Police, known only as "Branch." I reference them a few times in Chapter 7. Apparently the last OAV involves some kind of organized terrorist activity which is supposed to have destroyed GENOM worldwide.
Personally, I don't see that. An organization as massive as GENOM isn't just the physical buildings, even assuming you could destroy the arcologies. Realistically you'll do a lot of damage, and kill a lot of people. But the corporation is at least partially an intangible object made up of its share of the world market. And terrorists blowing up buildings and factories might hurt them for a while, but you couldn't possibly destroy enough to totally wipe GENOM off the map.
And of course, with the new direction GENOM is going in, I doubt the events in that anime will happen. The focused hatred wouldn't be as focused, now that Quincy is dead and the new chairwoman is less interested in ruining lives and more interested in building a reputable megacorporation.
I suspect, given the grittier feel of Paradise Dolls, that they got most of the old vehicles. Which I also referenced in Ch. 7.
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I kind of suspect that the AD Police has a warehouse or three of random gear sitting around... lost in a sea of red tape. If nothing else some random division of Genome will love to have their low altitude urban reconnaissance drone tested to replace the dreaded firebee. If nothing else any gear that works can be shuffled to them for 'field testing'... the MegaTokyo Advanced Police is basically the test model for how police should operate deal with all these random super powered idiots and free willed robots. Its the longest operating group in existence I think. I can see companies sending them automated billboards... cleverly disguised as free samples of new equipment.. please ignore the blatant corporate logos on the armor panels.
Not having seen Paradise Dolls, I can't imagine that terrorism would work all that well on Genome... Isn't terrorism Genome's HR departments technobabble for 'interdepartmental politics'? Ignoring the moon base issue and their then destined operational procedure best paraphrased as 'In Soviet Russia: Asteroids Mine YOU!' I can't see 'destroying' Genome as a company doing much besides preventing the random branches from staying rogue. Besides... its Genome. You just spontaneously removed half the worlds economic basic literally overnight... I can't see Genome executives not having a global mine field of secret bases for just such an occasion. All destroying the Genome corporate name will do is make it so no one is riding herd on Catbert's relatives.
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I looked and it's Parasite Dolls, not Paradise Dolls.
Terrorisim really can't work. A decapitation strike would work(kill Quincy, the board members, the various managers, the human resources people, and the stockholders), but that would send the world economy into a tailspin. Taking those people out would prevent anyone from accessing the bank accounts and paying Genom's workers and with Genom not paying anybody, the workers would leave to find a another job.
The Armored Division Police really needs to get the Armor back.
Does Leon know that Lisa is Sailor Loon? He does know that Lisa can use magic. He saw her identify Mackie's superpower by just looking at Mackie.
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Even if all Genom execs where somehow killed a lot of it should be automatic, and the world would be making arrangements to give the replacements access to the bank accounts. Imagine a decapitation strike against the US Goverment tat his the whitehouse, congress, the supreme court, all the department heads of the federal agencies and most of the governors. Think about how hard that would be to accomplish, and then think that it would be small fries compared to what it would take to bring Genom down.
Also even with that much I'm pretty sure most government employees would still show up for work and follow the routine as best they can, even with the government in such chaos.
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
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ShinDangaioh Wrote:I looked and it's Parasite Dolls, not Paradise Dolls. Oops. Thanks for catching that one.
I'm actually addressing the subject of enhancing the AD Police's armor capability in Ch. 8. Because after having their asses saved again by the Knight Sabers, it's starting to become unmistakably obvious that if they don't address their lack of competent firepower, the city might just hand the Knights the city's boomer crimes contract!
Also, although the AD Police has been influenced by Doug to start using the remote-shutdown device on boomers, now that they're starting to behave more like intelligent terrorist cells instead of renegade loners, the ability to get close enough to use one of those things just got a lot harder. So even if they intend to keep developing the pulse generators, they still need to survive closing the range.
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Don't forget that a decapitation strike is even less likely to work in this setting... ignore Quincy's clone, drone swarm trick... I can't imagine Super-Villain-fo- an-Evil-Plan!Quincy would not secretly arraigning for random high powered, villainous executive to steal/acquire/get in a random 'missent' E-mail those Largo plans. First one to bite it repops giving a speech that makes dozens of Genome Executives to give preemptive 'Strike me down and I shall become more powerful then you could possibly imagine!' speeches. Prompting a new generation to rush to see the now ancient 'Star Wars' movies.
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I was talking about Parasite Dolls getting rid of Genom, not Dead Bang. How it was done made no sense.
Madigan has pretty much sidelined that nutty plot, since she is more interested in expanding customer base and keeping her customer base alive.
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I knew that... but with the set up around Dead Bang, do you really think that a little thing like a plan making no coherent sense is going to stop idiots from doing stupid things? Doomed to fail plots like a successful decapitation strike on Genome are exactly the kind of thing DB!Quincy would have running as a joke. Even if this kind of things never happens its better to at least mention the probable effects of such things.
For all we know the Parasite Dolls thing was Quincy faking his own death to retire to his own tropical island.
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I think Madigan might help out on the ADP's lack of firepower if for no other reason to protect IDEC and to protect from stuff that IDEC might attract the atention of. Also an improved police force is better for Genom's business as the civilians and workers aren't constantly fearing for their lives.
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True. While I haven't spelled it out in the story yet, I think Madigan is deliberately stepping back from putting the usual pressure on the GENOM lapdogs who manage the AD Police, because doing so will allow the ADP to push the boundaries a little. When they do, and GENOM flunkies don't immediately push back, they'll expand to fill the new space created. Eventually they'll hit barriers, but until then, they'll keep expanding their ability to be effective.
This will ironically push the Knights to develop some more of the gifted tech, because without it, they run the risk of being sidelined by an effective AD Police, and superpowered people. And since this is their story universe, they have to rebalance that somehow.
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Any chance of some of the Knights themselves developing powers? The way Bob described Nene's handling of electronic countermeasures suggests some kind of latent psi talent, and there's an explicit statement in the DW2 Concordance to the effect that he'd at least considered making Sylia a latent psi, hence her reacting when Doug entered the timeline. Her performance against Wetter Hexe, though, suggests latent magery to me and would be amusingly ironic considering that she's teaching Lisa while being convinced of her own lack of talent in that line.
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The Sylia thing was supposed to be a tie-in to Twisted Path 3, back when DW2 was supposed to take place in that universe; it certainly wasn't intended to be more in the revised plotline. Sylia's showing against Hexe has nothing to do with magery and everything to do with being a badass normal; by Warriors' World standards she already is a super, and thus fought Hexe on (almost) the same level.
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I think the Knights work better as high-end normals. It's like having a four-person team of people trained by Tony Stark, for example. They don't *need* superpowers to be super.
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Well, yes, exactly. I think what Bob's saying is that WW would count Stark as a 'super'.
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Re: Twisted Path
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Say what ever happened to Twisted Path? It seemed like the author just dropped of the face of the internet one day. It's a shame. It was one of the better SI's out there.
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Well, no, actually it wasn't. I pulled up TP3 to reread my favorite parts a couple months ago, and it is crudely written, of average skill level, and is Mary Sue to a degree that would be unacceptable today.
What it was, though, was influential. It set off a lot of new fan writers (including, indirectly, me), many of whom are still around and producing much higher-quality work than Twister's.
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True. And the main reason for SI fics was taken over by Redo fics. Instead of brining someone who knows how thins are going to go from the outside, authors come up with a way to send a main character back to the begining.
Back on topic. How about Lisa uses the Spell of Thespia on Jerrod or maybe that professional bomber?
The Spell of Thespia(Scroll of Thespia) comes from Nodwick:
http://nodwick.humor.game...ndex.php?date=2011-03-11
Doug would probbaly track down the person who wrote that spell and do something.....
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Hehe. A spell that makes the individual share information so completely, that once they start talking, they won't shut up.
I can see that being a miscast, actually. She wants info from someone, casts a truth spell she's hashed out, and while it works, it doesn't seem to have a defined end-point. So that person just doesn't stop.
One of the side effects of making your own spells. The lack of trained experts to ask questions from means you're going to make mistakes like that.
Edit: I'm up to about 66K in chapter 8, but some of that includes the New York scene, which is still floating. I haven't found when I want it to happen, yet.
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DRAG0NFLIGHT Wrote:Hehe. A spell that makes the individual share information so completely, that once they start talking, they won't shut up.
I can see that being a miscast, actually. She wants info from someone, casts a truth spell she's hashed out, and while it works, it doesn't seem to have a defined end-point. So that person just doesn't stop. Liar, Liar, anyone?
Or that bit from one of the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy novels, where a court witness is given an overdose of a drug to get him to tell he truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth... although, as I recall, the truth ended up being The Truth [size=smaller](as in an In Nomine Seraph with a direct link to God)[/size], so he was locked up because nobody wanted to know the real truths behind the universe.
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You did read the spell description, right? That spell makes pepoles break out into songs until the production is over or until the first rotten tomato is thrown.
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The link pointed to a strip where it looked like the barbarian was about to launch into a long-winded story. Which is where I figured the inspiration was from.
Oh, I'm now up to 91k. Talking about it gelled a few things that had been rattling around, and I figured out where to put the New York segment.
Edit: Okay, 96k. This is scary. I think finding the new job really made it easier to concentrate on writing.
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Peculiar dilemma. I've got so much material to write, the next chapter may be all lead-up to a combat chapter.
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How is that a dilemma? I plan for chapters like that in my stories...
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Heh. It's a dilemma because I'm really looking forward to writing the combat segment, and several scenes around it. So I guess that means I need to speed up production of chapter eight...
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