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Silly but "popular" guns
Silly but "popular" guns
#1
http://www.facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=660793

Someone ranting about all the impractical guns that show up in film and anime.
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#2
What guns get used in anime/movies/comics/etc doesn't bother me so much as improper on-screen handling of them, from both a technical and safety point of
view. The worst is when everytime someone points a gun you hear the cocking sound. I do agree, however, that the man-portable minigun and the Pancor Jackhammer
are totally stupid.
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#3
Not sure about all the writer's facts, but he admitted possible inaccuracy himself at the very beginning of the article. Otherwise this seems quite informative...and very amusing. Educational indeed. Healthy amount of snark. The points about weight and recoil make a lot of sense to me, as does the guy's points about how a lot of these weapons are prone to jamming. That's very true.
One thing I'm surprised he didn't mention about the man-portable minigun. That being...how the HECK are you supposed to AIM the thing? The only possible firing position is to hold the thing around waist level. You're not gonna hit much that way. I'm convinced that the standing hip firing position was invented by sadistic instructors to break the spirits of trainees for all eternity. Or, well, as an object lesson in 'you are not Rambo'...
EDIT: Ha, he has an ENTIRE entry on 'hip-shooting' later in the thread. Excellent. Yes.
EDIT 2: it also occurs to me that my company armskote had a gigantic poster of the XM-29 OICW on the walls. Oi. >_< I guess someone fell for that too...
-- Acyl
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#4
I was delighted with how his comment on the OICW echoed my almost-immediate thought on that system, which was essentially: "You're putting a
computer in a personal firearm for battlefield use? Do you have any idea how fast that thing will malfunction?" I
didn't notice him mentioning, though, that the OICW is very high, meaning it'd be next thing to impossible to use in any kind of good
prone-and-mostly-behind-cover position.
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#5
Computers in the battlefield ain't a bad idea, but making them essential ain't good. Soldiers are taught a lot of stuff using bits of heavy pencil, laminated paper, and their thumbs. If you know that, you can always use electronic gear to make things easier. The other way around...not so much.

Size of the XM-29, yeah, that'd be hell. The author of those articles talked about the weight, but the sheer scale of it is an excellent point. One reason why folks like bullpup weapons is because they're shorter and smaller. An M16's annoyingly long.

This Combining Super Robot Gun is worse...
-- Acyl
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#6
When I saw the thread's title I thought it was going to be 'bout NERF guns (of which I've a revolver, rifle & machine gun), but no it's
about real guns. I can see the points in the madness and agree with them. Pretty much all of them. Aside from shooting from waist level, which is something
necessary in CQB. Add a big bore lasersight if you want better RoT. Or use a shotgun.

--Rod.H
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#7
Quote: An M16's annoyingly long.
An ironic statement considering that military rifles in WWI, for instance, were long enough that men could use them as crutches. But I
agree; if you can shorten a rifle without sacrificing anything that contributes to accuracy, this is a good thing. (The OICW had a much shorter barrel
than the '16, another gripe I had about it. Reach out and touch someone long distance, people!)
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#8
Quote: DHBirr wrote:


Quote: An M16's annoyingly long.
An ironic statement considering that military rifles in WWI, for instance, were long enough that men could use them as crutches.
Heh, well, I'm not any sort of historian. But I'm a 5'7" guy - and I was just about average height in my company. Asian military,
see? Which means, of course, that a good number of fellows were shorter than me. Sure, I bet the M16 isn't a giant or anything. But it's all a
matter of scale. =)

I understand the M16's quite light - certainly the lightest I've carried. But it's also the longest I've seen. The Singapore Armed Forces now
uses a local weapon called the SAR-21 for most units. It's a bullpup. A bit heavier, but a lot smaller. Shorter, more compact. The size matters.

I used the M16 as a training weapon. Carrying it around all day, 'specially squirming through mud or leaping off bits of concrete, it damn well feels like
a honking great broomstick that catches onto everything.

No idea how long the base rifle for the OICW is, but with all the extra gear attached, it looks fat and awkward. Forget weight, just the size...even
dismantled, how would you carry all the pieces? Well, maybe you'd have webbing designed for it, but...ick.
-- Acyl
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#9
The whole thing read like one big wangstfest. Dude needs to aquaint himself with the Rule
of Cool. and realise if you want anal attention to detail on firearms, read Gunsmith Cats.
---
Jon
"And that must have caused my dad's brain to break in half, replaced by a purely mechanical engine of revenge!"
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