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		Hey, Bob 
Have looked into working for Uncle?
www.usajobs.gov  is a good place to start. 
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		I have considered it, and I'm no stranger to the concept -- my first job out of college was for a contractor on-base at Lakehurst Naval Air EngineeringCenter -- but something about it now turns me off. Still, it's over three months and I shouldn't overlook any possibilities.
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		Same here...six months of looking at the private sector and I'm still looking.
 You know..it's too bad I didn't take up the offer to rejoin the service last year. At least I wouldn't be unemployed.
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		It's too bad you aren't on this side of the border - we've got so many technically-trained civil servants retiring in the next 30 months thatwe're starting to aggressively recruit from recent graduates and the private sector. I don't know whether the US civil service is in the same boat when
 it comes to an aging workforce, but it can't hurt to take a look at what they've got open.
 
 (Mind you, I'm biased; I and my grandfather are/were civil servants, and my father's seen both military and civil service. Quiet patriotism runs in the
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		Actually, they are.__________________
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		And the French bilingualism level? Usually it's CBC or BBC across the board. I've never been able to meet those qualifications, so those jobs are allunavailable to me anyway.
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		From a job posting found via Princeton University's career services site: Quote:Compensation Details/Other Benefits: 
 Professional Day Rat
 
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		....I can't even brain around wrap 'day rat' 
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		Come to sunny (frigid, but sunny!) Saskatchewan. We have the lowest jobless rate in NA. Seriously, there's jobs all over the place here, especially in thetrades.
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Quote:  Bob Schroeck wrote:
 From a job posting found via Princeton University's career services site:
 
 
 Quote:    Compensation Details/Other Benefits:
 
 Professional Day Rat
 
 
Hmm. Horribly (but entertainingly) mangled "Professional Pay Rate"?
 
That said, I both want to know, and fear knowing, what a professional Day Rat is. 
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		Quote:That said, I both want to know, and fear knowing, what a professional Day Rat is. 
 Likewise. Were's the job...
 
(spelling and punctuation intentional)
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		Quote:  LilFluff wrote:
 
 
 Quote:    Bob Schroeck wrote:
 From a job posting found via Princeton University's career services site:
 
 
 Quote:      Compensation Details/Other Benefits:
 
 Professional Day Rat
 
 
 Hmm. Horribly (but entertainingly) mangled "Professional Pay Rate"?
 
 
 
 
 That said, I both want to know, and fear knowing, what a professional Day Rat is.
 
 
Something that isn't  a Rat at Night, obviously. 8P 
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		It is in fact "Day Rate", for a contract position.-- Bob
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		Memo to potential employers:
 There is a difference between "prolific" and "proficient". A person who is "prolific in the Microsoft .NET platform" isn't
 necessarily a good programmer.
 
 Thank you.
 
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 (considers writing dozens of useless little .NET-based programs in order to fulfill these kinds of requirements)
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		Good news -- a company just six miles from our home has contacted me after finding my resume on Dice -- I've got a phone interview tomorrow morning.-- Bob
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		Looking forward to hearing the results.
 I hate seeing one of my fellow Jerseians out of work for this long.... Something's gotta give.
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		Quote:has contacted me 
ooh, good sign!
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		Is there something wrong with working for the government? Technically, I do.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Bob Schroeck Wrote:... a company just six miles from our home has contacted me ... Oh, excellent! First, that they called you; second, that they're close enough to reach by foot if necessary. (It's a long walk, but better than going into NYC...)
 
Fingers crossed.
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		One hour until the interview. I hope this goes well; my research into the company indicates it's not only near enough to be fantastically convenient,it's also about the ideal size as far as I'm concerned, and it's doing some neat stuff. Unfortunately, it looks like a lot of that neat stuff is
 done in Java, which I can just muddle through when needed, and if they got the idea that I'm a Java programmer first and foremost, this may be a short
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		(After) Mm. What was supposed to be a half-hour interview according to the HR person who wrote me lasted only fifteen minutes. I suspect this isn't good.-- Bob
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		Meanwhile, I continue looking through the listings, during which I found a posting which included the following: Quote:Our highly creative, hard-working yet fun-loving interactive department is looking for individuals who have:
 * The ability to stifle laughter when you see someone building a Web site using a WYSIWYG
 
 * The capacity to work under duress
 
That wasn't all of it, but that's the funny part. 
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		hey!!! Truth in advertising meets Job Requirments!!!Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky? That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry-
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		Hey, Bob! Want something to serve as a coding exercise, that there's a vague-outside chance you can make a few coins from the result? 
Pick up a copy of http://e23.sjgames.com/item.html?id=SJG37-0313]this new SJGames release  and code the rules in it as a stand-alone app, so that the GM in a hurry only needs to press a button (and maybe select a few categories) and get a result. You can do that in Java, right? Or, if you can't, learning how to do that will help improve your skills. And if you do a really good job at the coding, maybe SJGames will buy the app from you (one can hope - there's already call for such an app on the SJGames forums, and the supplement was just released today).
 
Just a thought (that assumes you've got a spare $9.99 kicking around)...
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		From the Java training I've had, I think it is possible but I can't really say without seeing what's in the book. The hard part is making it lookpretty, GUIs are tricky.
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