All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XII

[robkelk]

I just did some work on All The Tropes:Works Page Guidelines.

If I erred anywhere, you know what to do. And after you're finished pointing and mocking, please fix the error.

[robkelk]

Argh.  We need to reconcile Subculture and Subcultures.  How do we end up with almost-identical pages like this?  (Yes, I know... both came from TVT.  How did no one notice them before?)

Let's see what folks have to say about this. (I won't have a chance to look at this until the weekend, anyway, so let's give folks a chance to change my mind about how to approach the cleanup.)

[Bob Schroeck]

Folks so far being you and me. <sigh>

[robkelk]

Give it a couple of days...

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I am so tempted to replace the character image of Mr. Burns (from The Simpsons) with this image because Gendo pose... but I don't want to give people the idea that we need to replace all the TVTropes images...

[Bob Schroeck]

Well, hopefully the fact that you're only changing one image on a page full of them should be a major clue...

[Bob Schroeck]

Do we really need all the subpages under Turn of the Millennium? I mean, they're just lists, not content. If the pages are properly categorized, this is all redundant. And they're all at least six years out of date anyway, as new works pages get created and not added to these lists.

[robkelk]

Much like that no-longer-existing page of where all those tropes' images came from, we can use them as checklists to make sure the works actually have the categories. As we confirm the categories are present, we can take the works off of these lists... and eventually redirect the pages to the matching categories.

[robkelk]

"Category:Films by decade" already existed.

"Category:Anime by decade" and the supercategory "Category:Media by decade" exist now.

Once we have the category infrastructure in place, we can start tagging those works pages.

[robkelk]

Just added this category to Site Maintenance. I think I made sure all of its members are up to date, but I'd appreciate a double-check.

[Bob Schroeck]

Do we have any kind of trope for a character feigning weakness? My search fu doesn't appear to be up to the task of finding it if there is one.

[Labster]

Fake Weakness. There's a list of more specific tropes on I Am Not Left-Handed

[Bob Schroeck]

Thank you!

[robkelk]

Whee! Just needed to create Category:Films of the 1890s! (And I'm expecting to use it for more than one film.)

[robkelk]

The wiki's gone 503 again...

Oh, and has anybody else had trouble using the search box to find categories, templates and files since the last upgrade?

[Bob Schroeck]

Yeah, I have. I thought I was just mistyping what I was looking for, but yeah.

[robkelk]

Wiki's back.

[Bob Schroeck]

Oh, and has anybody else had trouble using the search box to find categories, templates and files since the last upgrade?

It's not just the search box.  The pop-up hints no longer offer templates, categories or files, either.

[Bob Schroeck]

Update on the search issue -- it would appear that search and hints no longer work on anything outside of the main namespace. It can't find anything in the project namespace anymore, for example.

[robkelk]

I just tried setting the project namespace to being a namespace that has content. Let's give it a bit of time to index, and check in a few hours whether we can search for All The Tropes pages.

[robkelk]

I just tried setting the project namespace to being a namespace that has content. Let's give it a bit of time to index, and check in a few hours whether we can search for All The Tropes pages.

Two hours later, and no joy. (And I won't have time to enter a Phabricator report until tomorrow night at the earliest - could somebody else file a trouble ticket, please?)

At least I didn't just sit around and wait - the films added to the National Film Registry in 2018 now all have pages... most of which need both tropes and images.

[Bob Schroeck]

Gah. I know I have a Phabricator account but for the life of me I can't remember what it was. Real name and wiki handle both fail. And trying to recover my password using my default email address gets me nothing, unless the message is coming by way of Medicine Hat. I'm going to have to wait until I get home and check what's in my browser password tool.

Oh, and whoever programmed Phabricator... helpfully giving both user name and password individual "failed" notices -- bad security practice.

[robkelk]

Subject change.

The wording of this post worries me... "approved examples"?

[Bob Schroeck]

Worse, "TVT approved examples". We are not TVT, we don't take our cues from them. If we did, there wouldn't be an allthetropes.org.

[robkelk]

Thanks, Bob. I've added a reply to that thread.

EDIT: And, look, 299 posts. May as well start a new thread.