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Howard Stern says Trump should resign
05-16-2020, 10:10 AM
Howard Stern Says Donald Trump “Despises” MAGA Voters, Thinks President Should Step Down
Quote:“The oddity in all of this is the people Trump despises most, love him the most,” said Stern on Tuesday. “The people who are voting for Trump, for the most part … He wouldn’t even let them in a f*cking hotel. He’d be disgusted by them. Go to Mar-a-Lago, see if there’s any people who look like you. I’m talking to you in the audience.”
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RE: Howard Stern says Trump should resign
05-17-2020, 09:00 AM
Well... its howard stern. Of course he's going to umph it for effect.
More to the point though, sadly the only way Trump will relenquish his presidency is when we pry it from his broken, defeated fingers.
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RE: Howard Stern says Trump should resign
05-17-2020, 12:30 PM
The phrase is cold, dead hands. As in: Trump will relenquish his presidency is when we pry it from his cold, dead hands. Anyone who thinks he’s just going to accept a negative result is deluding themselves. It will be cries of millions of illegals voting, vote by mail fraud, and Deep State manipulation. After four years in office, he has less control of the government than ever, that’s the true insidiousness of Obamagate. That sort of thing.
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RE: Howard Stern says Trump should resign
05-17-2020, 12:42 PM
At that point, you're into a constitutional crisis.
What happens if a President refuses to leave office? Is that even possible?
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RE: Howard Stern says Trump should resign
05-17-2020, 12:46 PM
(05-17-2020, 12:42 PM)Dartz Wrote: At that point, you're into a constitutional crisis.
What happens if a President refuses to leave office? Is that even possible?
He is officially out once his term expires. At that point the Secret Service can escort him out and hand him over to the nice guys in the white coats.
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RE: Howard Stern says Trump should resign
05-17-2020, 12:54 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-17-2020, 12:55 PM by classicdrogn.)
No we don't, it's laid out in plain language. The president's term ends at noon on Jan. 20, with no ifs, ands, or buts; at that time he is no longer the president, with the VP's office also expiring. If there is no incoming president-elect, the sequence of succession is also laid out, with the leaders of the House and Senate next in line - so if he tried it, we'd end up with President Nancy Pelosi, unless she's also up for reelection and that also didn't get done. The only crisis would be over whose job it is to send some big guys in to evict him, though my guess would be the Secret Service since they are in charge of security at the White House. I doubt there's much love lost for him there.
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RE: Howard Stern says Trump should resign
05-17-2020, 07:04 PM
(05-17-2020, 12:42 PM)Dartz Wrote: At that point, you're into a constitutional crisis.
What happens if a President refuses to leave office? Is that even possible? Or possibly a new civil war if Trump's MAGA fanatics decide to try and enforce his complaints,.
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RE: Howard Stern says Trump should resign
05-17-2020, 07:56 PM
(This post was last modified: 05-17-2020, 07:57 PM by hazard.)
(05-17-2020, 12:54 PM)classicdrogn Wrote: No we don't, it's laid out in plain language. The president's term ends at noon on Jan. 20, with no ifs, ands, or buts; at that time he is no longer the president, with the VP's office also expiring. If there is no incoming president-elect, the sequence of succession is also laid out, with the leaders of the House and Senate next in line - so if he tried it, we'd end up with President Nancy Pelosi, unless she's also up for reelection and that also didn't get done. The only crisis would be over whose job it is to send some big guys in to evict him, though my guess would be the Secret Service since they are in charge of security at the White House. I doubt there's much love lost for him there.
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The House of Representatives is elected for stints of 2 years for every representative, and the last task of the previous session's Speaker of the House of Representatives is to act as Speaker for the first action the House has to take after they've been sworn in by arranging the election in the House for this session's Speaker of the House.
The House is sworn in in early January, so there'd already be a Speaker for the new session of Congress by the time Trump's term lapses. This may or may not be Nancy Pelosi.
Or there was no election, in which case things get... messy.
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RE: Howard Stern says Trump should resign
05-17-2020, 08:15 PM
I'm sorry, the comment about the secret service doing the eviction has me imagining them just dragging a screaming Trump about with a pile of suitcases and dropping him in a taxi, evicted tenant style 
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RE: Howard Stern says Trump should resign
05-18-2020, 09:35 AM
(05-17-2020, 12:30 PM)Labster Wrote: The phrase is cold, dead hands.
Yes, but in the current political environment I rather didn't want to phrase it in a way that sounded seditious.
While it would not surprise me if it came to that, or worse, I would prefer that it did not.
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