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RE: 2020, the election campaigns have begun
08-16-2020, 07:34 PM
What worries me is the sheer number of people asking for the military to intervene. As if opening that particular door will end in something else other than tears.
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RE: 2020, the election campaigns have begun
08-16-2020, 08:02 PM
(08-16-2020, 02:16 PM)robkelk Wrote: (08-16-2020, 12:36 PM)Dartz Wrote: On at least 2 scenarios, January 20th arrives with no clear winner in the White House,
There's a line of succession: President (would be vacant), Vice-President (would be vacant), Speaker of the House (would still be Pelosi if they haven't met and selected a new Speaker).
So... the Dems would have control, if only temporarily.
Not necessarily.
If the election for the president is uncertain the election for members of the Congress of the United States may also still be uncertain. Including the seat for the current Speaker of the House. Because the Congress is constituted before the President is sworn in, but no elected representatives of the people of the United States also means no House of Representatives.
The next US president might be the president pro tempore of the Senate instead, which would have to be one of the 66/67 still seated senators and traditionally is assigned by vote to either the oldest or the longest serving senator, I'm not sure which. Or any other senator, in accordance with the line of succession.
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RE: 2020, the election campaigns have begun
08-16-2020, 09:13 PM
Legal Eagle - can the President cancel the Election and what would happen
starts talking about who would take over around the 13:40 mark
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RE: 2020, the election campaigns have begun
08-17-2020, 08:26 AM
Anybody who thought the postal service wasn't an election issue, here is your wake-up call.
AP: House called back in session to work on postal service legislation
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RE: 2020, the election campaigns have begun
08-18-2020, 10:31 AM
An article in Politico that asks: What if there is no swing voter?
Quote: “The idea that there is this informed, engaged American population that is watching these political events and watching their elected leaders and assessing their behavior and making a judgment.”
“And it is just not true.”
An Unsettling New Theory: There Is No Swing Voter
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RE: 2020, the election campaigns have begun
08-18-2020, 04:34 PM
Having met a few swing voters, they seem like the least informed of the bunch, and the most likely to skip voting. There are some people for whom this is not true, when they generally have conflicting values. Latino Roman Catholics, for instance, tend to agree with the conservative stance on abortion but the liberal stance on economics and minority rights. Some of them can't really decide which is more important, so they evaluate each candidate. Those are rare.
The education and engagement level does matter. We had several elections in California where the only Republican that could win statewide office was running for Governor. People didn't bother to vote down-ballot.
The turnout model is absolutely true in the case of Trump. I've haven't met anyone who hasn't made up their mind about him by this point. Not just America, but worldwide. I'm sure I could find some North Sentinelese who cried out "Fuck Donald Trump!" before he impaled me with his spear for trespassing on his fucking island.
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RE: 2020, the election campaigns have begun
08-19-2020, 07:57 AM
And I just realized that we've gone more than 300 messages on this thread. Time to start a "2020 Elections part II".
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RE: 2020, the election campaigns have begun
08-19-2020, 06:17 PM
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