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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-26-2021, 05:40 PM
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(11-26-2021, 05:33 PM)Bob Schroeck Wrote: ... I am curious just which pages ShawnTheLogoBoi thinks need this banner.
This one, for one - there's an edit pending moderation that consists solely of adding the template to the page.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-26-2021, 05:47 PM
The hell with that. Shawn's been a less than impressive editor -- we need to point him at the "No Lewdness, No Prudery" policy and let him know that this is stupidly over the prudery line. And that what he's doing is trying to unilaterally declare wiki policy.
Which I would do myself if I wasn't using a phone to read the forums.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-26-2021, 09:52 PM
I've done it.
I don't have time to go through all those edits by "Iloveicecream", though.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-27-2021, 12:13 AM
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Iloveicecream is looking to be a really good editor. If he/she had a longer history I'd be nominating them for autopatrol/automoderated status.
EDIT: ShawnTehLogoBoi, not so much.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-27-2021, 01:08 PM
(11-27-2021, 12:13 AM)Bob Schroeck Wrote: EDIT: ShawnTehLogoBoi, not so much.
Looks like they're not willing to put in the work to accept other people's opinions -- note the topic summary.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-27-2021, 08:23 PM
I'm not surprised. When he tried to create a work page that was two plain paragraphs and I rejected the edit, I encouraged him to read the works guidelines and resubmit an improved version. When I declined to do the work for him he abandoned it in a similar manner.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-27-2021, 10:19 PM
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 12:31 PM
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Just put together a new end-of-page navbox because of this article: Why Ryan Reynolds just makes movies better.
Amazing how many redlinks there are in the navbox... no, no, it isn't amazing. It's par for the course. Anybody want to make a creator page or two... or twenty-one? (Well, maybe I might be able to throw together a stub for one of them... which leaves twenty to go.)
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 03:49 PM
The Sopranos is currently semi-protected. Does it need to be, especially considering we have Moderation in place now?
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 04:19 PM
FYI, just checked my email, seems Miraheze's staff are considering trying to add CirrusSearch for next year. Not holding my breath, but nice to know they are still considering it.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 04:26 PM
Bit confused as to what's going on here - I don't know if this was something carried over from TVT or no, but in my opinion I'd just settle on leaving the org's name up. This user seems to be indecisive on the matter.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 04:28 PM
(11-28-2021, 03:49 PM)robkelk Wrote: The Sopranos is currently semi-protected. Does it need to be, especially considering we have Moderation in place now?
Quote:2019-12-21T17:14:13 Looney Toons talk contribs block changed protection level for The Sopranos [Delete=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (indefinite) [Edit=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (indefinite) [Move=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (indefinite) (If you are the editor in question check your talk page(s).) (hist | change) (thank)
Yeah, I'd think that protection could be removed now - likely it was just forgotten about after the fact.
Also, a tangent, but have you all commented on this Dormancy Policy discussion yet?
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 04:54 PM
(11-28-2021, 04:28 PM)Umbire Wrote: Also, a tangent, but have you all commented on this Dormancy Policy discussion yet?
I just did.
My, but "YellowFrogger" is putting a lot of effort into avoiding 90 seconds of work each week...
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 04:57 PM
(11-28-2021, 04:26 PM)Umbire Wrote: Bit confused as to what's going on here - I don't know if this was something carried over from TVT or no, but in my opinion I'd just settle on leaving the org's name up. This user seems to be indecisive on the matter.
I think it's the same idea as "Church of Happyology" - avoid naming a known sue-happy or protest-happy organization and they won't find us in a casual web search.
Security through obscurity rarely works in the long run, though.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 05:47 PM
(11-28-2021, 04:57 PM)robkelk Wrote: I think it's the same idea as "Church of Happyology" - avoid naming a known sue-happy or protest-happy organization and they won't find us in a casual web search.
Security through obscurity rarely works in the long run, though.
I'm aware of the why - the puzzling part is that editor can't seem to settle on one or the other for whatever reason.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 06:45 PM
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(11-28-2021, 04:54 PM)robkelk Wrote: My, but "YellowFrogger" is putting a lot of effort into avoiding 90 seconds of work each week...
Couldn't really place why, either - the desire to pull rank and arbitrary statistics (and being caught out fabricating such a rationale) makes this seem much more like a personal problem on his end, if not indicative of some unrealistic expectations regarding perceived "prestige". This appears to indicate as much.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 08:15 PM
(11-28-2021, 12:31 PM)robkelk Wrote: Just put together a new end-of-page navbox because of this article: Why Ryan Reynolds just makes movies better.
Amazing how many redlinks there are in the navbox... no, no, it isn't amazing. It's par for the course. Anybody want to make a creator page or two... or twenty-one? (Well, maybe I might be able to throw together a stub for one of them... which leaves twenty to go.)
Foundation laid for Sandra Oh.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 09:00 PM
(11-28-2021, 08:15 PM)Umbire Wrote: (11-28-2021, 12:31 PM)robkelk Wrote: Just put together a new end-of-page navbox because of this article: Why Ryan Reynolds just makes movies better.
Amazing how many redlinks there are in the navbox... no, no, it isn't amazing. It's par for the course. Anybody want to make a creator page or two... or twenty-one? (Well, maybe I might be able to throw together a stub for one of them... which leaves twenty to go.)
Foundation laid for Sandra Oh.
Thanks. I found a recent photo of her and added that to the page.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 10:06 PM
(11-28-2021, 03:49 PM)robkelk Wrote: The Sopranos is currently semi-protected. Does it need to be, especially considering we have Moderation in place now?
Quote:2019-12-21T17:14:13 Looney Toons talk contribs block changed protection level for The Sopranos [Delete=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (indefinite) [Edit=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (indefinite) [Move=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (indefinite) (If you are the editor in question check your talk page(s).) (hist | change) (thank)
Looking at the history, I see this was one of the primary targets of the crowd of anonymous halfwits who couldn't spell, couldn't compose a sentence, wouldn't mark things up right, and wouldn't talk to us. Yeah, it's safe to unprotect it since Moderation and required registration will stop any further instances of their kind of "contributions".
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 10:09 PM
(11-28-2021, 04:26 PM)Umbire Wrote: Bit confused as to what's going on here - I don't know if this was something carried over from TVT or no, but in my opinion I'd just settle on leaving the org's name up. This user seems to be indecisive on the matter.
The page history shows the coy refusal to name them came from TVT. I agree with the user's initial (and third) edit -- better to name them than not.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-28-2021, 10:21 PM
(11-28-2021, 04:54 PM)robkelk Wrote: (11-28-2021, 04:28 PM)Umbire Wrote: Also, a tangent, but have you all commented on this Dormancy Policy discussion yet?
I just did.
Likewise. And yeah, I agree that YellowFrogger has issues of some sort.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-29-2021, 08:32 AM
(11-28-2021, 10:06 PM)Bob Schroeck Wrote: (11-28-2021, 03:49 PM)robkelk Wrote: The Sopranos is currently semi-protected. Does it need to be, especially considering we have Moderation in place now?
Quote:2019-12-21T17:14:13 Looney Toons talk contribs block changed protection level for The Sopranos [Delete=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (indefinite) [Edit=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (indefinite) [Move=Allow only autoconfirmed users] (indefinite) (If you are the editor in question check your talk page(s).) (hist | change) (thank)
Looking at the history, I see this was one of the primary targets of the crowd of anonymous halfwits who couldn't spell, couldn't compose a sentence, wouldn't mark things up right, and wouldn't talk to us. Yeah, it's safe to unprotect it since Moderation and required registration will stop any further instances of their kind of "contributions".
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-29-2021, 08:42 AM
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(11-27-2021, 12:13 AM)Bob Schroeck Wrote: Iloveicecream is looking to be a really good editor. If he/she had a longer history I'd be nominating them for autopatrol/automoderated status.
I did some approvals of Iloveicecream's edits, but stopped when I saw wiki markup on some "tropes" we don't have.
Somebody who has more time than I do at the moment will have to double-check the Moderation queue against the relevant TVT pages, please.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-29-2021, 02:13 PM
Please point me at a few instances and I'll doublecheck. Initially I checked all their contributions and they were clean, but I eased up a bit after the first dozen or so. If they're copying stuff then we need to act on that fast.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXIII
11-29-2021, 04:22 PM
Regarding the works of one Callimachus, what would suffice as a page title for an article on the Hymns specifically? There's six in total that are among his surviving works.
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