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		Re: Yet Another Song Doug Shouldn't Play
		
		
		02-06-2003, 05:46 AM 
	 
		Aye, but that's the rub!  From what you've said in the past, the way Doug's meta talent would interpret the pronouns means that anyone in the area of effect would want to do that to HIM! 
About its best use would be to allow Doug to operate as a moving distraction, since everyone in the AoE would concentrate on him, allowing other Warriors to attack without fear of reprisal."I was an Otaku before those kids came along and changed the meaning of the word."
 
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		02-06-2003, 04:41 PM 
	 
		Well, Doug and anyone else handy...  yes, being a fast-moving target might well be the way to go.  
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		02-06-2003, 10:52 PM 
	 
		If Doug could manage to stay out of the action, sounds like a great song to use on a massed enemy during a solo operation. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 Without going back and looking, there's the scene where Doug creates Sailor Loon with one or more songs (I don't remember the details). This shows that he can transfer effects to others.
 
 OK, I went back and found that scene. Can Doug use Invisible Touch or a song like that to designate somebody else as the "beneficiary" of a song? If so, that creates a whole new level of whupass.
 
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Transferring Songs
		
		
		02-07-2003, 02:56 AM 
	 
		Quote:Can Doug use Invisible Touch or a song like that to designate somebody else as the "beneficiary" of a song?
 
 
Actually, that was a part of the power that "Invisible Touch" provided -- it required  that he hand it off to someone else, a female.  He's got a couple songs like that; the one that's the most fun is a Rolling Stones number called "I'm So Hot For Her (And She's So Cold)", which gives him fire powers, and a woman of his choice ice powers. 
As for doing it generically, I suppose I should go look for a song that operates on a meta-level, like "I'll Play For You", to modify how other songs work, so that he can  hand any random power off to someone else.
 
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		Transfer Song Candidate
		
		
		02-07-2003, 05:36 AM 
	 
		Bryan Adams - Everything I DoLook into my eyes - you will see
 What you mean to me
 Search your heart - search your soul
 And when you find me there you'll search no more
 Don't tell me it's not worth tryin' for
 You can't tell me it's not worth dyin' for
 You know it's true
 Everything I do - I do it for you
 Look into my heart - you will find
 There's nothin' there to hide
 Take me as I am - take my life
 I would give it all - I would sacrifice
 Don't tell me it's not worth fightin' for
 I can't help it - there's nothin' I want more
 Ya know it's true
 Everything I do - I do it for you
 There's no love - like your love
 And no other - could give more love
 There's nowhere - unless you're there
 All the time - all the way
 Oh - you can't tell me it's not worth tryin' for
 I can't help it - there's nothin' I want more
 I would fight for you - I'd lie for you
 Walk the wire for you - ya I'd die for you
 Ya know it's true
 Everything I do - I do it for you
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		Re: Transferring Songs
		
		
		02-08-2003, 03:17 AM 
	 
		This might work...  for a friendly target.  The pronouns are right, anyway.  Nice and gender neutral.  I think Bob was saying that the pronouns on IT pretty much specified a female, not I'll play, which was why Invis Touch needs a female receipient."I was an Otaku before those kids came along and changed the meaning of the word." 
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		02-08-2003, 07:19 AM 
	 
		Quote:Bryan Adams - Everything I Do
 
 
Yeah, that might do it, all right.
 
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		02-08-2003, 07:21 AM 
	 
		Quote:I think Bob was saying that the pronouns on IT pretty much specified a female, not I'll play, which was why Invis Touch needs a female receipient.
 
 
Exactly.
 
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		02-08-2003, 09:51 AM 
	 
		I would've thought that Doug's UN would have banned the use of Bryan Adams songs in combat without specific authorization from the Security Council. 
(actually "Run to You" could be useful in being able to find a female subject; Doug would just start going in the appropriate direction on foot even if he didn't consciously know where she was)
 Quote:She says her love for me could never die
 But that'd change if she ever found out about you and I
 Oh - but her love is cold
 It wouldn't hurt her if she didn't know, 'cause...
 When it gets too much
 I need to feel your touch
 I'm gonna run to you
 I'm gonna run to you
 Cause when the feelin's right I'm gonna run all night
 I'm gonna run to you
 She's got a heart of gold she'd never let me down
 But you're the one that always turns me on
 You keep me comin' 'round
 I know her love is true
 But it's so damn easy makin' love to you
 I got my mind made up
 I need to feel your touch
 I'm gonna run to you
 Ya - I'm gonna run to you
 Cause when the feelin's right I'm gonna stay all night
 I'm gonna run to you
 Ya - I'm gonna run to you
 Oh when the feelin's right I'm gonna run all night
 I'm gonna run to you
 
 
Song ideas: 
"Gold" by Spandau Ballet, turns a third-party subject into a solid gold (mass is going to be an issue, animation may be as well) but indistructable form.
 Quote:Thank you for coming home.
 I'm sorry that the chairs are all worn.
 I left them here I could have sworn.
 These are my salad days slowlyy being eaten away.
 Just another play for today.
 Oh but I'm proud of you but I'm proud of you.
 Nothing left to make me feel small.
 Luck has left me standing so tall, all.
 Gold (gold)
 Always believe in your soul.
 You've got the power to know
 you're indestructible.
 Always believe in 'cause you are
 gold (gold.)
 Glad that you're bound to return
 there's something I could have learned.
 You're indestructible, always believe in.
 After the rush has gone I hope you find a little more time.
 Remember we were partneres in crime.
 It's only two years ago the man with the suit and the pace.
 You knew that he was there on the case.
 Now he's in love with you he's in love with you.
 My love is like a high prison wall
 and you could leave me standing so tall, all
 Gold (gold)
 Always believe in your soul.
 You've got the power to know
 you're indestructible.
 Always believe in 'cause you are
 gold (gold.)
 Glad that you're bound to return
 there's something I could have learned.
 You're indestructible, always believe in.
 My love is like a high prison wall
 and you could leave me standing so tall, all
 Gold (gold)
 Always believe in your soul.
 You've got the power to know
 you're indestructible.
 Always believe in 'cause you are
 gold (gold.)
 Glad that you're bound to return
 there's something I could have learned.
 You're indestructible, always believe in.
 
 
Songs not to play: 
"Crash and Burn" by the Bangles. Does what it says: "I wish I could/Crash and burn."
 Quote:.A. to Reno
 Checking out the scene-o
 Feeling so mean-o
 Sometimes I wish I could crash and burn
 Winding through the hot night
 Without my headlights
 20/20 hindsight
 Sometimes I wish I could crash and burn
 Crash and burn
 And I never ever felt so lonely
 Crash and burn
 Can't look them in the eye
 Just want to drive and drive and drive
 Going nowhere
 And I don't care
 Can't wait 'til I get there
 Sometimes I wish I could crash and burn
 Fifty, sixty, seventy, eighty, ninety
 Gotta be a place where they can't find me
 Watching all those bridges burn behind me
 And if I can't see
 What's passing me
 Nothing's gonna touch me and I'll fly
 I wish I could crash and burn
 On my Philco
 I hear an echo
 There was a wreck-o yesterday
 and by tomorrow
 They'll clean the char-o
 And wash the tar and trouble away
 I wish I would
 I wish I could
 I wish I would
 
 
"Self Control" by Laura Branigan. In that Doug would basically be losing it.
 Quote:Oh, the night is my world
 City light painted girl
 In the day nothing matters
 It's the night time that flatters
 In the night, no control
 Through the wall something's breaking
 Wearing white as you're walkin'
 Down the street of my soul
 You take my self, you take my self control
 You got me livin' only for the night
 Before the morning comes, the story's told
 You take my self, you take my self control
 Another night, another day goes by
 I never stop myself to wonder why
 You help me to forget to play my role
 You take my self, you take my self control
 I, I live among the creatures of the night
 I haven't got the will to try and fight
 Against a new tomorrow, so I guess I'll just believe it
 That tomorrow never comes
 A safe night, I'm living in the forest of my dream
 I know the night is not as it would seem
 I must believe in something, so I'll make myself
 believe it
 That this night will never go
 Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
 Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
 Oh, the night is my world
 City light painted girl
 In the day nothing matters
 It's the night time that flatters
 I, I live among the creatures of the night
 I haven't got the will to try and fight
 Against a new tomorrow, so I guess I'll just believe
 it
 That tomorrow never knows
 A safe night, I'm living in the forest of a dream
 I know the night is not as it would seem
 I must believe in something, so I'll make myself
 believe it
 That this night will never go
 Oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh, oh-oh-oh
 You take my self, you take my self control
 You take my self, you take my self control
 You take my self, you take my self control
 You take my self, you take my self control
 You take my self, you take my self control
 You take my self, you take my self control
 You take my self, you take my self control
 You take my self, you take my self control
 You take my self, you take my self control
 You take my self, you take my self control ...
 
 
 
Lastly, I think that (assuming that the song is available to Doug) he may have made a tactical error in using "Under My Thumb" in Chapter 11. Instead, I think that he should have used "We Can Work It Out" by the Beatles. It's not as forceful, but it could permit for an area effect.
 Quote:Try to see it my way,
 Do I have to keep on talking till I can't go on?
 While you see it your way,
 Run the risk of knowing that our love may soon be gone.
 We can work it out,
 We can work it out.
 Think of what you're saying.
 You can get it wrong and still you think that it's alright.
 Think of what I'm saying,
 We can work it out and get it straight, or say good night.
 We can work it out,
 We can work it out.
 Life is very short, and there's no time
 For fussing and fighting, my friend.
 I have always thought that it's a crime,
 So I will ask you once again.
 Try to see it my way,
 Only time will tell if I am right or I am wrong.
 While you see it your way
 There's a chance that we may fall apart before too long.
 We can work it out,
 We can work it out.
 Life is very short, and there's no time
 For fussing and fighting, my friend.
 I have always thought that it's a crime,
 So I will ask you once again.
 Try to see it my way,
 Only time will tell if I am right or I am wrong.
 While you see it your way
 There's a chance that we may fall apart before too long.
 We can work it out,
 We can work it out.
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Re: Bryan Adams
		
		
		02-08-2003, 10:48 AM 
	 
		Quote:Lastly, I think that (assuming that the song is available to Doug) he may have made a tactical error in using "Under My Thumb" in Chapter 11. Instead, I think that he should have used "We Can Work It Out" by the Beatles. It's not as forceful, but it could permit for an area effect.
 
 
It may have been a tactical error, but I believe it was intentional on the part of the Author - after all, Doug's rather annoyed at the sabers and isn't thinking "let's play nice".  He's more thinking "I'm right, you're wrong, and I'm gonna make you see things my way"... 
In this case the "error" is really just a difference in approach.  Seeing things externally gives us a persoective that Doug doesn't have - one of the things that makes DW such a good read... 
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		02-10-2003, 06:05 AM 
	 
		Quote:I would've thought that Doug's UN would have banned the use of Bryan Adams songs in combat without specific authorization from the Security Council.
 
 Quote:(actually "Run to You" could be useful in being able to find a female subject; Doug would just start going in the appropriate direction on foot even if he didn't consciously know where she was)
 
 
Actually, I already have a song much like that -- I planned on using "Radar Love" by Golden Earring for a similar effect (only with flight instead of running) as part of the climax of DW1...
 Quote:"Gold" by Spandau Ballet, turns a third-party subject into a solid gold (mass is going to be an issue, animation may be as well) but indistructable form.
 
 
Or maybe Gold of the Metal Men?  
 Quote:"Crash and Burn" by the Bangles. Does what it says: "I wish I could/Crash and burn."
 
 
I dunno.  The lyrics make it sound like the singer is doing anything but -- they're travelling, they're making good time, but they're just  wishing for another option which they can't take.  I'd have to think about it.
 Quote:"Self Control" by Laura Branigan. In that Doug would basically be losing it.
 
 
Ah.  Doug goes full-out Darkwing Daffy Duck.   
As for the matter of "Under My Thumb", Offsides has it right.  One of Doug's problems is that he doesn't always make the best choices, particularly when he's riled up.  Usually that means he just does something outright insane (hence the comment from the simulacrum Shadowwalker in chapter 2:  "Hexe says rational and you don't always go together"). 
It's also a case of him thinking, at least subconsciously, "I've done what I want, now go away, I don't want to play anymore."  Unfortunately, the Sabers wanted to keep playing... 
 
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		03-09-2003, 02:27 AM 
	 
		I finally got around tracking down a few songs I've been meaning to post here since this thread got started.Bobby Brown Goes Down - Frank Zappa
 At A Medium Pace - Adam Sandler
 I dont want to think about what these might do if they turn out to power songs.
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		03-09-2003, 06:59 PM 
	 
		I don't know the Sandler piece, but I'm familiar with the Zappa stuff.  I don't think "Bobby Brown" would be too bad unless he was within 33 meters or so of a certain R&B singer.   The other...  hmm.  There are Possibilities here.  
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		03-09-2003, 11:40 PM 
	 
		Why do I suddenly have images of ad&d's Shoes of Dancing... well... Dancing through my head?  :Evil Grin:"I was an Otaku before those kids came along and changed the meaning of the word." 
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		03-10-2003, 02:28 AM 
	 
		The Adam Sandler song, well, Ill let the lyrics talk for themselves:www.lyricsdomain.com/lyrics/3600/
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		03-10-2003, 03:42 AM 
	 
		Quote:Why do I suddenly have images of ad&d's Shoes of Dancing... well... Dancing through my head? :Evil Grin:
 
 
Don't you mean "Otto's Irresistable Dance"?  
 
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		03-10-2003, 03:44 AM 
	 
		Quote:The Adam Sandler song, well, Ill let the lyrics talk for themselves:
 
 
Um.  Yeah.   
I think we can find something better to spend helmet memory on.
 
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		03-10-2003, 11:05 AM 
	 
		Quote:Don't you mean "Otto's Irresistable Dance"?
 
 
I guess I do...  Its been a while since I played.  the basic D&D style games just don't do for me anymore, besides the fact that I feel more comfortable doing SF over fantasy anyway."I was an Otaku before those kids came along and changed the meaning of the word." 
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		03-14-2003, 04:02 PM 
	 
		I tried to come up with an appropriate rhyming intro for this and failed. But the song itself, well it's a fear of a majority of Australians. 
The Pub With No Beer - trad. (Slim Dusty's version should be the easiest to find)
 Quote:Well, the publican's anxious for the quota to come,
 There's a faraway look on the face of the bum,
 The maid's gone all cranky and the cook's actin' queer -
 What a terrible place is a pub with no beer!
 cho: Oh, it's lonesome away from your kindred and all
 Round a campfire at night, where the wild dingoes call
 But there's nothin' so lonesome, so morbid or drear
 As to stand in the bar of a pub with no beer.
 The stockman rides in with his dry, dusty throat,
 Goes up to the bar, pulls a wad from his coat,
 But the smile on his face quickly turns to a sneer
 When the barman says suddenly, "The pub's got no beer!"
 There's a dog on the verandah, for his master he waits,
 But the boss is inside, drinkin' wine with his mates,
 He hurries for cover and he cringes in fear,
 It's no place for a dog, not a pub with no beer!
 Then in comes the swagman, all covered with flies,
 He throws down his roll, wipes the sweat from his eyes,
 But when he is told he says, "What's this I hear?
 I've trudged fifty flamin' miles to a pub with no beer!"
 Oh, pity the blacksmith - first time in his life
 He's gone home cold sober to his darlin' wife
 He walks in the kitchen; she says, "You're early, my dear,"
 Then he breaks down and he tells her that the pub's got no beer.
 
 
 
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		03-14-2003, 11:42 PM 
	 
		Oh, I dunno Rob.  Sounds like its a good song to use to get someone to sober up!"I was an Otaku before those kids came along and changed the meaning of the word." 
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		Can't have a chase scene without music, but ....
		
		
		03-14-2003, 11:56 PM 
	 
		Several of the "surf rock" tunes about drag racing and the like would be really good for making Doug a crack driver, except that a) Doug has already demonstrated pretty good driving ability and b) many of those tunes ("Dead Man's Curve" (by the Beach Boys?) and "Drive Like Lightning" (by Brian Setzer) for example) end in the racer in question dying in a fiery, screaming, unpleasant fashion.  Similarly, "Little Nash Rambler" (which I heard on Dr. Demento) would be a bad song to play, since it involves a guy trying to race away from a Nash Rambler and failing (the final verse has the Rambler's driver asking, "Hey buddy, how do you get this car out of second gear?").   
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		03-15-2003, 05:29 AM 
	 
		"Go Faster" by... the Black Crowes?could cause any vehicle Doug's in to keep accelerating, regardless of the driver's wishes or the vehicle's normal characteristics or even its ability to hold together at that speed... what happens when the song ends is an interesting question...
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		03-15-2003, 10:02 PM 
	 
		Quote:Similarly, "Little Nash Rambler" (which I heard on Dr. Demento) would be a bad song to play, since it involves a guy trying to race away from a Nash Rambler and failing (the final verse has the Rambler's driver asking, "Hey buddy, how do you get this car out of second gear?").
 
 
Unless the song put DOUG in the Rambler's driver's seat. 
The problem, of course, is that it only has two gears.
 Quote:"Go Faster" by... the Black Crowes?
 
 
That is indeed the band. 
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		A Song to Avoid at ANY Cost
		
		
		03-17-2003, 04:34 PM 
	 
		Jackyl - Dirty Little Mind. Can anyone say "Ataru"? Great for crowd control as long as you genuinely want to fuck over the targets. 'Pun' intended.D for Drakensis
 
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		03-18-2003, 01:06 AM 
	 
		To begin with I would not let him near ANY Misfits songs.. Especially "Die, Die, My darling..."
	 
		
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