Sitting up with the dead

[itsune9tl]

While this does not raise any zombies, any corpse within AOE will at least try to sit up.

[Ebony]

It might also heighten the flight reaction of any person within the area, inciting panic when the aforementioned corpse(s) do sit up.
Ebony the Black Dragon
http://ebony14.livejournal.com

"Good night, and may the Good Lord take a Viking to you."

[Shepherd]

Would Doug even risk trying out a song with lyrics like those?
It would be like listening to "When This Song Is Over You Will Die" (www.thefump.com/fump.php?id=1229) just to see what happens.
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"Anyone can be a winner if their definition of victory is flexible enough." - The DM of the Rings XXXV

[Star Ranger4]

well... I seem to recall that the effects pretty much dont kick in until the second time he plays a 'new' song. The impression I got is that the first time he listens to it, he can tell if it makes his mage gift sit up and take notice of it; but his gift wont actually MANIFEST whatever effects those are until the second time through.

its kind of like rendering a 3d model. first time is the 'bake' where you do precomputations (or his mage gift basicly decides what effects and how they will manifest, etc) the second time is the actuall render/Casting.
a good example of this happens when he gets taken to a Priss and the Replicants concert in DW 2.  First time he hears "Konya wa Hurricane" he can 'Feel' his magegift lock onto it, and he has a feeling what its probably going to do; but he doesn't know for sure until a night or two later when he actually casts it.  This happens offscreen, but is referenced at the start of the next chapter about unusual weather in the Canyons, which one eventually realises meant a minature hurricane filling Doug's normal AoE through iterpretation of "System PLAY! and I opened myself to the node". 
Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky?
That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry-
NO QUARTER!!!
-- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children

[Ebony]

well... I seem to recall that the effects pretty much dont kick in until the second time he plays a 'new' song. The impression I got is that the first time he listens to it, he can tell if it makes his mage gift sit up and take notice of it; but his gift wont actually MANIFEST whatever effects those are until the second time through.
its kind of like rendering a 3d model. first time is the 'bake' where you do precomputations (or his mage gift basicly decides what effects and how they will manifest, etc) the second time is the actuall render/Casting.
a good example of this happens when he gets taken to a Priss and the Replicants concert in DW 2.  First time he hears "Konya wa Hurricane" he can 'Feel' his magegift lock onto it, and he has a feeling what its probably going to do; but he doesn't know for sure until a night or two later when he actually casts it.  This happens offscreen, but is referenced at the start of the next chapter about unusual weather in the Canyons, which one eventually realises meant a minature hurricane filling Doug's normal AoE through iterpretation of "System PLAY! and I opened myself to the node". 

If you go back and reread that part, you'll see that he has his tuneplug in when he goes to the concert at Hot Legs. The tuneplug allows him to listen to music while his metagift does not manifest. His metagift still pings the song, but it doesn't go active.
Ebony the Black Dragon
http://ebony14.livejournal.com

"Good night, and may the Good Lord take a Viking to you."

[robkelk]

well... I seem to recall that the effects pretty much dont kick in until the second time he plays a 'new' song. The impression I got is that the first time he listens to it, he can tell if it makes his mage gift sit up and take notice of it; but his gift wont actually MANIFEST whatever effects those are until the second time through.
its kind of like rendering a 3d model. first time is the 'bake' where you do precomputations (or his mage gift basicly decides what effects and how they will manifest, etc) the second time is the actuall render/Casting.
a good example of this happens when he gets taken to a Priss and the Replicants concert in DW 2.  First time he hears "Konya wa Hurricane" he can 'Feel' his magegift lock onto it, and he has a feeling what its probably going to do; but he doesn't know for sure until a night or two later when he actually casts it.  This happens offscreen, but is referenced at the start of the next chapter about unusual weather in the Canyons, which one eventually realises meant a minature hurricane filling Doug's normal AoE through iterpretation of "System PLAY! and I opened myself to the node". 

If you go back and reread that part, you'll see that he has his tuneplug in when he goes to the concert at Hot Legs. The tuneplug allows him to listen to music while his metagift does not manifest. His metagift still pings the song, but it doesn't go active.

It doesn't go active because it's the first time Doug's heard the song. At least, that's how I interpret http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/dw-faq.shtml#4a]this FAQ entry...
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Rob Kelk
"Governments have no right to question the loyalty of those who oppose
them. Adversaries remain citizens of the same state, common subjects of
the same sovereign, servants of the same law."

- Michael Ignatieff, addressing Stanford University in 2012

[Star Ranger4]

in fact, Bob has Doug flat out explain it in 2-3

I nodded wordlessly, trying to make a guess at what would happen the next time that I'd hear that song. The first time that I listen to a song, it never does anything. It's only after my subconscious and my metagift have both had a chance to muse on it that it has a chance to trigger some effect. I already knew this "Hurricane" song was going to give me a metapower. The question was just exactly what, if not the obvious, it would be.

So, there we have it, straight from the Wabbit's mouth, so to speak.

I can, however, see Doug being unwilling to play it a second time after realising his magegift has locked onto it out of fear that in either case he'd get a rather litteral interpretation of The dead deciding to sit up, and or move around, effectively making this a create zombie song for the first. You have to make a save vs death for the second. for really nasty results everyone in the AoE has to make a save every combat round till SOMEONE fails and keels over dead.
Hear that thunder rolling till it seems to split the sky?
That's every ship in Grayson's Navy taking up the cry-
NO QUARTER!!!
-- "No Quarter", by Echo's Children

[Shepherd]

in fact, Bob has Doug flat out explain it in 2-3

I nodded wordlessly, trying to make a guess at what would happen the next time that I'd hear that song. The first time that I listen to a song, it never does anything. It's only after my subconscious and my metagift have both had a chance to muse on it that it has a chance to trigger some effect. I already knew this "Hurricane" song was going to give me a metapower. The question was just exactly what, if not the obvious, it would be.

So, there we have it, straight from the Wabbit's mouth, so to speak.

I can, however, see Doug being unwilling to play it a second time after realising his magegift has locked onto it out of fear that in either case he'd get a rather litteral interpretation of The dead deciding to sit up, and or move around, effectively making this a create zombie song for the first. You have to make a save vs death for the second. for really nasty results everyone in the AoE has to make a save every combat round till SOMEONE fails and keels over dead.

I'm aware that the song doesn't do anything the first time. I'd still think that he wouldn't even listen a first time (to see if his metatalent reacts), since that means that, should it be a valid power song, the very next time he hears the song without interference, it will work.
Now Doug is known to have some songs, like Everyone Has AIDS and Dead Heart in a Dead World, on password protected lockout. I do wonder if he has even listened to either of those songs a single time, or if he locked them out based simply on the lyrics. The appropriate thread lists definitive results for both songs (http://drunkardswalkforums.yuku.com/top ... senal-quot), which suggests that they've both been played twice, but I'd peg Doug as likely to have had a major breakdown if he'd either given a bunch of people AIDS or just caused them all to just drop dead.
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"Anyone can be a winner if their definition of victory is flexible enough." - The DM of the Rings XXXV