(02-08-2026, 03:29 PM)GethN7 Wrote:

(02-08-2026, 03:15 PM)robkelk Wrote: Regarding this request and action

Where's the evidence? Flow doesn't allow undeletes (at least, not in any way I know about).

And the breakneck speed between somebody who has no edit history on the wiki asking somebody else be banned, and the banning itself, is reminiscent of Fast Eddie.

I can't force GethN7 to follow the rules that we've agreed upon, but I can do something about the other part of this. I am now calling for a vote:
In that it now is actively getting in the way of our administrative procedures, stop using Flow immediately.

You can calm down Rob.

(02-08-2026, 03:29 PM)GethN7 Wrote: One, Flow DOES allow undeleting edits. You click the history link on the page where the item was deleted, and it leads you to a place to see and undelete the item in question.

(02-08-2026, 03:29 PM)GethN7 Wrote: Second, the deleted items (currently undeleted, so you can see for yourself and take what action you deem necessary) matched the "krypto the runt" spammer's MO 100%. Given their past history, I decided to act promptly, which included deleting their spam in order to deprive them of any attention, a stance we have taken before.

Finally, the edits were all the same nonsensical vandalism by the aforementioned problem child, whom we had to ban multiple times for malicious vandalism. I acted quickly to deny them the benefit of their actions and to avoid clogging up the wiki with their childish spam.

(02-09-2026, 07:59 AM)Bob Schroeck Wrote: So, are we wanting to preserve our edit histories?

(02-09-2026, 08:01 AM)robkelk Wrote: Tempbanning the user was acceptable. Removing the evidence was not.

Did you not start All The Tropes because you didn't like the way that Fast Eddie did things? Yet here you are, doing things the way that Fast Eddie did things -- from all that we can see from the outside.

(02-09-2026, 07:49 AM)robkelk Wrote:

(02-08-2026, 03:15 PM)robkelk Wrote: ... I am now calling for a vote:
In that it now is actively getting in the way of our administrative procedures, stop using Flow immediately.

Withdrawing this motion as redundant.

Tech:Noticeboard/Removing extensions for the MediaWiki 1.45 upgrade

Miraheze's Technology Team is planning to remove eight extensions, including Flow, for the MediaWiki 1.45 upgrade.

Quote:The Wikimedia Foundation is on its way to undeploy Flow (StructuredDiscussions), after which the extension will be completely unmaintained. It has already caused issues with past MediaWiki upgrades on Miraheze, so we should remove it sooner than later.

The technology team plans to use an automated script to delete all Flow discussion pages and replace them with wikitext equivalents. There are two possible paths:

1. The replaced page only has a single revision and the edit history would be lost. The sequence of events can only be inferred from the timestamps on signatures.
   
2. The replaced page has the full page history reconstructed from past Flow discussions. This option presents more technical challenges but seems to be doable (albeit harder than the previous option).
   The technology team is still evaluating the feasibility of the second option. If you'd like to preserve the full edit history, please say so in the discussion section below.