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		They are absolutely canonically 
 related.  In the latest Emberverse book, The Sword of the Lady, we  
finally find out exactly what really happened.
 
Spoilers in white: The Mind, the godlike collective consciousness of everyone who ever lived and died or ever will, decided that Earth was heading toward some very nasty futures and decided to take radical action by sending Nantucket back in time to create a better starting point, creating two new and separate universes, and suppressing technology in the post-Nantucket modern world (while enabling faith-based magic) to give humans there a fresh start. 
Given that the Mind knows for sure that everyone who dies just goes straight back to it, and that technically everyone who died in the post-Nantucket Collapse actually agreed to this nastiness in their afterlife states before it happened, they have something like an inassailable moral position. 
The Mind, incidentally, speaks to characters in the Emberverse side through the presences of Marian and Swindapa.   
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		Grrrr. Needs more Brightslap to the plot.''We don't just borrow words; on occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat
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		They are the same universe . . . you meet a lot of relations of Island characters at different points.That said, I did find the whole mind bit distinctly precious and pretentious.
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Needs More Lelouche. 
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		Quote:Needs More Lelouche. 
Is that anything like "Needs More Cowbell"?
Gunslinger Girl ? Needs More Lelouche.
Azumanga Daioh ? Needs More Lelouche.
Hello Kitty ? Needs Lots  More Lelouche.
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		robkelk Wrote:Hello Kitty? Needs Lots More Lelouche. *Breaks down into hysterics*
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		I was referring to the whole bit from EML's post, but, well, okay.  ![[Image: banana-dance.gif]](http://www.accessdenied-rms.net/forums/forumimportfiles//banana-dance.gif) 
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		I think your post needs an edit - the spoiler isn't hidden, at least not on my NoScript'ed end.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		that's because he is using the  tag, which is scripted. so NoScript happy doesn't hide it.-Terry
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		IMO spoilers shouldn't be done that way - it's just as easy to hide them with font-color tags, and it works better, without relying on the user having scripts available. (NoScript isn't the only scenario where they won't work; most text-mode browsers are another example. I don't come here in those often, but it has been known to happen.)
 I have a mildly extended rant or three about using scripts to do things which could be achieved without them, and how and why that's almost always a bad idea, but it probably wouldn't be very persuasive and certainly would be offtopic.
 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		To be honest, I'm used to forums that use the 'spoiler' tag as shorthand for 'black text on black background', rather than the scripts used here. 
So you'd get something like this: 
Spoilers go here. Highlight them to read. 
And on like that. 
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		Kevin and Kell/Sailor Moon -- No, I'm serious.  Think about it.  There's a little blonde girl in K&K who's a big eater, doesn't get good grades (well, any grades, to be honest) in school, and whose first name is a word that means "Rabbit"...-- Bob
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		It'd be a bit disconcerting to see Sailor Moon eat the youma and spit out the bones... o.O;--Sam
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		Bob Schroeck Wrote:Kevin and Kell/Sailor Moon -- No, I'm serious.  Think about it.  There's a little blonde girl in K&K who's a big eater, doesn't get good grades (well, any grades, to be honest) in school, and whose first name is a word that means "Rabbit"...http://www.kevinandkell.com/2006/kk0805.html]And it isn't as if Bill Holbrook doesn't know about Sailor Moon Stars...
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		Sailor Moon English dub version: Serena's brother's name isn't Sammy, it's Calvin.---
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		I can just see Hobbes and Luna dueling for sunbeam spots...--Sam
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		Quote:It'd be a bit disconcerting to see Sailor Moon eat the youma and spit out the bones... o.O; 
One of the more random things I've seen that disturbed me was a four year old little girl beat her dad at Mortal Kombat 3 and near instantly pull off that Fatality with Kitana's sister... That creeped me out for days... the image of a little girl standing on a box and giggling at that image... then going off to watch a G movie.  Always makes those tykebombs seem more plausible and vaguely familiar.
	 
		
	 
	
	
	
		
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		Innocent
		
		
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		This is because we have socially conflated innocent with /nice/. They are not the same. They are not even particularily related. The innocent little children can be the worst sorts of ghouls /because they are innocent./
 They don't know any better.
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		We've replaced Rukia Kuchiki's 'Chappy' model gikongan with Colonel 'Chappy' Sinclaire, USAF. Let's see if she notices. 
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		Speaking of Harry..   
spoiler marked to avoid hurting your enjoyment of the Dresden Files books.  
Harry Dresden hated vampires. Once he eliminated the Red Court, root and branch, however, he discovered what the court had been protecting the world from. Will Sir Integra Hellsing be enough to enable Harry to seal Alucard, the primogenitor of the Red Court, back into his eternal prison?
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		We've replaced Yue and Nodoka from Negima! with Yui and Nodoka from K-on!, and vice versa. Let's see whether anyone notices...--
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		We've replaced Yue and Nodoka from Negima! with Yui from Fushigi Yuugi and Nodoka Saotome.  Let's see if anyone notices.-- Bob
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		Bob Schroeck Wrote:We've replaced Yue and Nodoka from Negima! with Yui from Fushigi Yuugi and Nodoka Saotome.  Let's see if anyone notices. At the least, we'd finally find out whether Haruna "Paru" Saotome is Ranma and Akane's daughter...
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		Though if Ranma's mom went through the Negima and was Paru instead... I can totally see basing her idea of manliness on Negi... and somewhere between the complex relationships, inexplicable adventures and general academic chaos Ranma manages to succeed in the ideal of manliness almost by accident.  The 'Saotome honor blade' is something she drew and is totally messing with Genma with the suicide pact and such, she is just being consistant with her mindscrew... though I can see her not knowing about the curse and screwing with Ranko for the entertainment value... then dragging him off to her class reunion and showcasing how her method of child raising actually got her the results she was aiming for... which was part of a bet with her classmates that people decided to ignore and take as a joke... Genma calls her Nodoka as a nickname after her classmate, random incident that amused her early on.Then again I'm convince that Makie Sasaki is the daughter of killer Croc from Bataman and the reason she freaks out when people tell her she failed is her left her with 'If you fail, I'll eat you!' as a parting line.  Considering her mom is married to him on purpose and likely an assassin, I'm guessing this is a valid consern on her part.  On the otherhand, being carted off to a private school year round, because your on the lam or in jail due to acts of the Batman makes her not parentally abandoned... sending her away like that is actually a good decision.  That this makes Killer Croc a more responsible parent than much of Japan is kind of a horrifying thought though.
 
		
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