All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX

[robkelk]

No, he has two edits waiting in Moderation. It looks like he wants to translate the Main Page.

[Bob Schroeck]

If you haven't been back I replied and said that if he wanted a translation he needed to so it himself. And since there was nothing in moderation before I did that...

Sight unseen I'm inclined to reject the edits if that's what they are. It's so stupidly trivial that I can't see any legitimate reason for someone to want that to be their first edits to the wiki. Variant spelling is not by any measure "translation".

[GethN7]

If you haven't been back I replied and said that if he wanted a translation he needed to so it himself.  And since there was nothing in moderation before I did that...

Sight unseen I'm inclined to reject the edits if that's what they are.  It's so stupidly trivial that I can't see any legitimate reason for someone to want that to be their first edits to the wiki.  Variant spelling is not by any measure "translation".

Same.

[MilkmanConspiracy]

Yeah. If someone wanted to make, say, a Thai or French translation that would be one thing. But I can’t see anyway to justify the massive duplication of work to rewrite the wiki per every variant of English out there. Why no love for Manglish lah?

[Bob Schroeck]

And as it turned out, his "translations" turned out to be two pages with nothing but "Main Page" on them. I rejected them as trollery or proto-vandalism. I haven't banned him, but he's on the precipice.

[MilkmanConspiracy]

Earlier today I approved an edit to the page Never My Fault, and later did a double take when I remembered that the work in question was animated film and was looking in the wrong section when cross checking to prevent plagiarism. Structurally it’s similar to an entry at TV tropes, though content wise it’s a bit different. There is no tropes with the same name on that website to my knowledge, but I could be missing something. Would would the appropriate remedy be, if any?

[GethN7]

Earlier today I approved an edit to the page Never My Fault, and later did a double take when I remembered that the work in question was animated film and was looking in the wrong section when cross checking to prevent plagiarism. Structurally it’s similar to an entry at TV tropes, though content wise it’s a bit different. There is no tropes with the same name on that website to my knowledge, but I could be missing something. Would would the appropriate remedy be, if any?

Go with the history of the editor. If they have a history of plagiarism, err on side of caution. If not, then grant it a provisional pass unless further indicators come up.

[MilkmanConspiracy]

Got it. There’s no noted history of plagiarism, so I’m going to chalk it up to coincidence as it’s still rather different and could just be that: A short example may be similar in structure by nature of it being short.

[robkelk]

True. There are only so many ways to phrase a short sentence, after all.

Changing topics... What's the trope in the last three panels of today's Girl Genius? My first guess was Open Secret, but the reveal isn't secret, just esoteric.

[Bob Schroeck]

What the hell is going on now? I just opened up Recent Changes and every freaking edit is marked as needing patrolling -- including ones I patrolled earlier today and my own edits.

EDIT: Wait, no. It's everything up to about 11:35 EST, right before a Miraheze staff member renamed a couple users.

[MilkmanConspiracy]

True. There are only so many ways to phrase a short sentence, after all.

Changing topics... What's the trope in the last three panels of today's Girl Genius? My first guess was Open Secret, but the reveal isn't secret, just esoteric.

Would The Not-Secret work?

[robkelk]

It just might. Thanks!