Quote:Matrix Dragon wrote:Except, if the article which nocarename linked is correct, that is the exact opposite of what happened:Quote:In “What If?” Simmons confronts Coulson’s rebellious student who asks her flat-out “Are Hydra Nazis?” Simmons answers without hesitation: “Yes, they are. Every last one of them!”
Given the timing of that (It's a recent episode, set in an alternate reality where Hydra took over the world and are generally being Nazis about it), it's generally believed to be part of Marvel Studios general contempt for Comics.
Quote:Marvel has taken pains to revise their history to show that, as with the TV series and movies, Hydra has existed well before Nazism, and only allied with Hitler during the Second World War because they shared similar goals with the Third Reich.Of course it is entirely possible that an internet news article on a site called screenrant.com contains factual inaccuracies.
Quote:Matrix Dragon wrote:The Thunderbolts time travel storyline actually does help. I collect Thunderbolts and own the issues in question. Issue #11, page 1 (the recap page).Quote:Which comic made that claim? Because every single comic I've seen indicates that Hydra Cap is a result of the Red Skull using the Cosmic Cube, in the form of an omnipotent little girl named Kobik, to rewrite history a few months ago so that his greatest enemy became a sleeper agent who'd always been working for him.
Issue 0 of Secret Empire, which came out on the 19th. Now, in fairness, it was said by Nazi Steve, and never responded to by anyone else in the comic, so it might just be his Cube memories talking. But some of Mervel Comics statements this week regarding it, and a time travel storyline in Thunderbolts, really don't help there.
"But Bucky doesn't know that the Red Skull already got to Kobik, convincing her to rewrite Captain America's history so that he believes he's an undercover Hydra agent."
Issue #11, the next to last page:
Bucky: Did you...Did you make Steve part of Hydra?
Kobik: Of course I did! Me an' Mr. America, an' Mr. Selvig, an' Mr. Schmidt... All of us being the best we can be and making friends everywhere!
So there you have the recap text and the living Cosmic Cube both stating outright that Kobik is the one responsible.
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I just wiki'd Ike Perlmutter. If Wikipedia is accurate:
Quote:Jeph Loeb, who oversees Marvel Television and the television properties of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, still reports to Perlmutter.That would seem to indicate that Agents of SHIELD and Marvel Comics are both overseen by the man.
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