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Obama has already stumbled diplomatically
 
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Quote: Are you directly calling me a liar, sir?

Aww, will you be threatening to leave too? Your false outrage and histrionics grow tiresome.

No I am not calling you a liar. That was a poor choice of words on my part. My apologies. I will instead call you deliberately disingenuous and possessing a
hypocritical double standard. I do however expect a matching apology for your deliberate attempt to miss portray my position.

Quote: I'll give you another chance here. I'm all about being fair

No, you are many things, but fair is not among them, at least in regards to your conduct in political discourse.

Quote: And I'll give you the benefit of the doubt that perhaps I did not make myself as clear as I should have. In the statement above, I meant HIM. Himself.
Personally. NOT his staff, NOT his administration.

This is rather more damming. Let us forget for the moment that your post was predicated on Obama personally releasing details of a private conversation to the
media, through his aides; a charge that is at this time unproven and unfounded. Not the same standard which you seek to apply to Bush's conduct in regards
to private conversations. That double standard I alluded to earlier.

That is highly duplicitous on your part; and I am sorry to say; very obvious.

Shall we parse this statement from your rebuttal?

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And it wasn't Bush that leaked that, as you would know if you bothered to research it.

The record of Scooter Libby's trial is rather well documented, but Bush is still trying to block the transcripts from examination. The release of the
Plame's role was deliberate, and according the Libby's testimony, at the request of the executive. In other words, Bush deliberately ordered the leak
of information that put Plame in danger, put all activities she was assigned to in the last decades under investigation, and all people she worked with during
that time in danger.

It is something rather overlooked in the whole affair. It was not just her. Everything she was known to be associated in the last decade was opened up like
Paris Hilton in whatever green-tinted video you procure. Covert operations exposed. People put at risk. Valuable, carefully nurtured contacts thrown to the
winds.

And Bush did not have the courage to do it himself, but rather left it to his minions; including allowing one to take one for the team; with a commute of the
prison time for lying and obstructing, a foregone conclusion. Especially as by lying and obstructing, Libby was able to keep the administration shielded from
the investigation.

Now perhaps he did not know? A possibility. Perhaps it was all engineered by the Vice-President and like a Faulknerian man-child the President was above the
incident in a cloud of ignorance.

Let me be the first to say, I have my doubts. Bush is demonstrably vindictive.

Bush has leaked private information, and deliberately ordering another to do so in his stead, is just as damming as if it came from his own lips. Your praising
him for such is no praise.

Cheers,

Shayne
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Messages In This Thread
[No subject] - by Wiregeek - 11-14-2008, 10:31 PM
[No subject] - by Logan Darklighter - 11-14-2008, 10:33 PM
[No subject] - by Logan Darklighter - 11-14-2008, 10:44 PM
Not leaking? - by Rev Dark - 11-14-2008, 10:58 PM
[No subject] - by Logan Darklighter - 11-14-2008, 11:18 PM
[No subject] - by Rev Dark - 11-14-2008, 11:39 PM
[No subject] - by Logan Darklighter - 11-15-2008, 12:42 AM
[No subject] - by Logan Darklighter - 11-15-2008, 12:47 AM
[No subject] - by robkelk - 11-15-2008, 01:13 AM
[No subject] - by Wiregeek - 11-15-2008, 01:41 AM
[No subject] - by Fidoohki - 11-15-2008, 06:59 AM
[No subject] - by Logan Darklighter - 11-15-2008, 11:35 AM
[No subject] - by Rev Dark - 11-15-2008, 05:06 PM

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