Going over the Cliff

[CattyNebulart]

yes i do, its insanity, its also insanity to think that if you dont stand your ground at some point and stand on principle, that your not going to get walked over for the rest of your existance. If the republicans dont stand their ground then there might as well not be a house, let it just be the senate, or for that matter get rid of the lower and upper houses all together, just let Obama be Emperor of the new American Socialist Empire, because thats what it will be, a liberal socialist pile of drek that will make the Soviet Union look like a McDonalds Playland.

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The United States is in no danger of turning Soviet. Quite frankly, that statement is rediculous - to the point where I'd almost call it a joke. There're many flaws with the ACA, but SOCIALISM isn't one of them. It's almost anti-socialist, but specifically requiring people to buy a privately sold product.

Canada has had universal health care for decades (funded and run by the government, not private insurance companies), and we're not socialist. Equating the two is not only fear-mongering, it's demonstrably false.

“Every man has a right to his own opinion, but no man has a right to be wrong in his facts.”
– Bernard Baruch, Deming (New Mexico) Headlight, 6 January 1950

Let's keep the facts right and argue only about the opinions, okay?

Having healthcare funded by the government is socialist, just like having fire-fighters payed by the goverment is socialist, or having the police as a arm of the goverment instead of private security companies. As a side-note there are proper capitalist places inside the US where you do need to pay a yearly fee to the fire brigade... and if you don't then they won't put out the fire until it threatens your neighbor who did pay the firebrigade.... which immediately points out why this is a stupid idea as it gives me a vested interest in having my neighbours insured. Socialism in practice just means that soceity as a whole owns and controlls a sector of the industry.

In the same way I have an interest in everyone around me having up to date vacintations and being treated for various infectious diseases before they spread anywhere close to me or my childern that are too young to be vacinated,... and think of it this way, say you are in a carcrash, maybe the other driver was drunk, or whatever, the firefighters show up and you don't pay anything, the police show up, they are free too, the ambulance shows up you are bankrupt... the idea that healthcare should be private is as silly an idea as the idea that fire-fighters should be privately funded.
E: "Did they... did they just endorse the combination of the JSDF and US Army by showing them as two lesbian lolicons moving in together and holding hands and talking about how 'intimate' they were?"
B: "Have you forgotten so soon? They're phasing out Don't Ask, Don't Tell."