All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX

[Bob Schroeck]

And just now Chrome reported "This site can’t be reached allthetropes.org refused to connect. ... ERR_CONNECTION_REFUSED" for me.

EDIT: Rob, Phabricator already has a ticket for DNS outages today, which might be the same as your DNS error above.

[Bob Schroeck]

Well. The KanriKyara wiki is now offline -- getting a Cloudflare "connection timed out" screen when I don't get "something went wrong" -- and issue-tracker.miraheze.org as well ("Connection timed out Error code 522"). Whatever this is, it's starting to look farm-wide.

[robkelk]

Definitely farm-wide -- the freebie wiki is giving 50* errors, too.

[robkelk]

Looks like we're back.

[robkelk]

I see somebody did something to the blog extension that we were using. All of the blog posts and replies are now listed on Special:DeadendPages with the page prefix "Broken/Special:Badtitle/"

(I have never understood why we even had a blog extension. We're a wiki, not a social media site... which might be why we don't have a blog extension any more considering Miraheze's new-this-calendar-year rules about anything to do with social-media sites. Anyway...)

Who has time to go through those 126 pages of posts and replies (one post or reply per page, with no context) and salvage anything that's on-topic for the wiki?

[Bob Schroeck]

Not at the moment, sadly. I barely have enough free time to keep up with the new edits and moderation -- and sometimes not even the latter.

[robkelk]

The admins and a few other Tropers will notice this anyway, what with the half-dozen or so notifications that are now in your wiki inboxes... I just did a sweep of the Trope Workshop. I proposed deleting one outright, turning a few into Useful Notes, and salvaging an abandoned candidate if somebody who isn't me is willing to adopt it. Oh, and I asked about Looney Toons' current candidate.

EDIT: "Trope", not "Tripe". Stupid autocorrupt for suggesting that and stupid me for accepting it.

[Bob Schroeck]

Well. My notifications don't appear when I click -- either in a dropdown or a separate page. But for some reason that's not doing anything other than displaying a "working" graphic. Neither is the search block at the top of Recent Changes. Something's broken somewhere.

EDIT: And I just noticed I'm getting a spinner mouse icon on all talk pages and I can't add replies. <sigh>

EDIT 2: And the dropdowns for standard edit reasons are not appearing on edit pages.

At least for the moment this seems to be all the malfunctions I'm running into.

EDIT 4: I spoke too soon. Typeahead/autocomplete in the search prompt and edit window both aren't working, nor is the "new edits since xxxx" on the Recent Changes page. Or hover-reveal of spoilers. Is something preventing Javascript from loading or something?

[GethN7]

Well.  My notifications don't appear when I click -- either in a dropdown or a separate page.  But for some reason that's not doing anything other than displaying a "working" graphic.  Neither is the search block at the top of Recent Changes.  Something's broken somewhere.

EDIT:  And I just noticed I'm getting a spinner mouse icon on all talk pages and I can't add replies.  <sigh>

EDIT 2:  And the dropdowns for standard edit reasons are not appearing on edit pages.

At least for the moment this seems to be all the malfunctions I'm running into.

EDIT 4:  I spoke too soon.  Typeahead/autocomplete in the search prompt and edit window both aren't working, nor is the "new edits since xxxx" on the Recent Changes page.  Or hover-reveal of spoilers.  Is something preventing Javascript from loading or something?

I'm getting that too. Something must not be loading right on the backend.

[robkelk]

Also, clicking on the "edit" link on a Lint Error entry calls up the page-edit window but does not highlight the lint error (the way it usually does).

Yeah, something's not working properly.

[Bob Schroeck]

Just noticed that at least some of these features are working on the KanriKyara wiki. So it's not looking like a farm-wide issue.

[robkelk]

Who has time to enter a "Performance issues on All the Tropes" ticket? This won't get solved if they don't know about it.

[Bob Schroeck]

I have just submitted one.

[robkelk]

"TV Tropes/Quotes" currently has three sections: "It Just Bugs Me (Headscratchers)", "Neutral", and "Negative". Are there truly no positive quotes about TVT?

Yes, I know that many people tend to find All The Tropes after being kicked off of TVT and thus aren't particularly positive about their experience there, and most of the other people who find ATT don't have any experience either way with TVT. But that isn't a reason to avoid listing quotes that show TVT in a positive light.

("I'm too busy with other wiki work to have time to go find any" is a reason, though. Add to the wiki in whatever way you work best. Anyway...)

I've added a "Positive" header to the page but commented it out because having an empty section made it look like there aren't any at all, which I'd rather not imply.

[GethN7]

MilkmanConspiracy has been offered and has accepted moderation rights:

https://allthetropes.org/wiki/Topic:Yc57...odc5541czk

[robkelk]

Is anybody else not getting autocomplete in the search box?

[Bob Schroeck]

I'm not. I submitted a ticket about it yesterday, and it's been rolled into an existing one about CirrusSearch not working right.

[Bob Schroeck]

The current problems with CirrusSearch are making my usual strategies for finding if we have a trope useless, so I'm asking here: Do we have a trope for someone who namedrops famous people to demonstrate how famous/important/connected they themselves are?

[robkelk]

The current problems with CirrusSearch are making my usual strategies for finding if we have a trope useless, so I'm asking here: Do we have a trope for someone who namedrops famous people to demonstrate how famous/important/connected they themselves are?

Aargh... I'm sure we have that one, but I don't remember what it's called. "Name Drop" redirects to "Title Drop". "I Know a Guy" redirects to "Friend in the Black Market". So it isn't either of those.

And I can't remember a character who does that, so I can't just look at a Characters subpage and see whether it's listed in the character's tropelist...

[Bob Schroeck]

I know of two characters who do it -- but one is the one I want to put the trope on (Ginger Grant) and the other (Feldman the Magnificent from The Magic Show) comes from a work without a character page, and the behavior is listed under Shout-Out on its trivia page.

[robkelk]

Is the count of "Missing end tag" Lint Errors cached somewhere?

I've gotten it down to 28,500 or 28,300 or (most recently) 27,900 errors, but every week over the last month and a half it jumps back up to 28,816 errors like clockwork. I don't see any additional entries being added to the error list.

It's getting depressing, to the point where I really don't want to bother cleaning up the errors any more because even the server doesn't notice the work I'm putting into this cleanup.

(And if this count is being presented as an in-joke, it isn't funny. I haven't cared about 28.8k since I got a 56k modem, and that was over a decade before I got DSL).

[MilkmanConspiracy]

Is the count of "Missing end tag" Lint Errors cached somewhere?

I've gotten it down to 28,500 or 28,300 or (most recently) 27,900 errors, but every week over the last month and a half it jumps back up to 28,816 errors like clockwork. I don't see any additional entries being added to the error list.

It's getting depressing, to the point where I really don't want to bother cleaning up the errors any more because even the server doesn't notice the work I'm putting into this cleanup.

(And if this count is being presented as an in-joke, it isn't funny. I haven't cared about 28.8k since I got a 56k modem, and that was over a decade before I got DSL).

That’s interesting: I had assumed (without evidence) that MediaWiki was only linting articles after a certain date. Resetting to a constant throws that out the water.

[robkelk]

I just put HLIAA14YOG On Notice for not paying attention to longstanding rules.

The immediate cause was my discovery of a file he(?) uploaded three months ago without specifying a licence. But this isn't the first rule that this particular troper has ignored. "Refusal to learn from honest mistakes" includes refusal to learn how to read the rules after they've been pointed out so many time, IMHO.

[Bob Schroeck]

While we're talking about him, I wish we could put him on notice for his reviews. I'm getting pretty tired of every single freaking one of them boiling down to "I hate this work because it's woke".

[Labster]

Oh no, I hope we don’t lose all of our reviews when we disable Extension:Flow.

It is actually coming, just as soon as WMF improves its tooling to migrate itself of Flow.