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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-06-2024, 03:23 PM
No, he has two edits waiting in Moderation. It looks like he wants to translate the Main Page.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-06-2024, 04:29 PM
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If you haven't been back I replied and said that if he wanted a translation he needed to so it himself. And since there was nothing in moderation before I did that...
Sight unseen I'm inclined to reject the edits if that's what they are. It's so stupidly trivial that I can't see any legitimate reason for someone to want that to be their first edits to the wiki. Variant spelling is not by any measure "translation".
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-06-2024, 05:37 PM
(11-06-2024, 04:29 PM)Bob Schroeck Wrote: If you haven't been back I replied and said that if he wanted a translation he needed to so it himself. And since there was nothing in moderation before I did that...
Sight unseen I'm inclined to reject the edits if that's what they are. It's so stupidly trivial that I can't see any legitimate reason for someone to want that to be their first edits to the wiki. Variant spelling is not by any measure "translation".
Same.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-06-2024, 09:06 PM
Yeah. If someone wanted to make, say, a Thai or French translation that would be one thing. But I can’t see anyway to justify the massive duplication of work to rewrite the wiki per every variant of English out there. Why no love for Manglish lah?
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-07-2024, 08:08 AM
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And as it turned out, his "translations" turned out to be two pages with nothing but "Main Page" on them. I rejected them as trollery or proto-vandalism. I haven't banned him, but he's on the precipice.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-07-2024, 11:48 PM
Earlier today I approved an edit to the page Never My Fault, and later did a double take when I remembered that the work in question was animated film and was looking in the wrong section when cross checking to prevent plagiarism. Structurally it’s similar to an entry at TV tropes, though content wise it’s a bit different. There is no tropes with the same name on that website to my knowledge, but I could be missing something. Would would the appropriate remedy be, if any?
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-08-2024, 04:51 AM
(11-07-2024, 11:48 PM)MilkmanConspiracy Wrote: Earlier today I approved an edit to the page Never My Fault, and later did a double take when I remembered that the work in question was animated film and was looking in the wrong section when cross checking to prevent plagiarism. Structurally it’s similar to an entry at TV tropes, though content wise it’s a bit different. There is no tropes with the same name on that website to my knowledge, but I could be missing something. Would would the appropriate remedy be, if any?
Go with the history of the editor. If they have a history of plagiarism, err on side of caution. If not, then grant it a provisional pass unless further indicators come up.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-08-2024, 06:07 AM
Got it. There’s no noted history of plagiarism, so I’m going to chalk it up to coincidence as it’s still rather different and could just be that: A short example may be similar in structure by nature of it being short.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-08-2024, 08:37 AM
True. There are only so many ways to phrase a short sentence, after all.
Changing topics... What's the trope in the last three panels of today's Girl Genius? My first guess was Open Secret, but the reveal isn't secret, just esoteric.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-08-2024, 01:37 PM
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What the hell is going on now? I just opened up Recent Changes and every freaking edit is marked as needing patrolling -- including ones I patrolled earlier today and my own edits.
EDIT: Wait, no. It's everything up to about 11:35 EST, right before a Miraheze staff member renamed a couple users.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-08-2024, 06:39 PM
(11-08-2024, 08:37 AM)robkelk Wrote: True. There are only so many ways to phrase a short sentence, after all.
Changing topics... What's the trope in the last three panels of today's Girl Genius? My first guess was Open Secret, but the reveal isn't secret, just esoteric.
Would The Not-Secret work?
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-08-2024, 07:03 PM
It just might. Thanks!
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-10-2024, 02:35 AM
Just wanted to mention I added a few tropes to the Joe Biden page, and they are based on quotes by Biden and Nancy Pelosi, and I did link to the claims in question. On that note, that page is really anemic and needs more tropes.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-10-2024, 02:50 AM
To be honest Biden is just not as tropable as Trump. Even if I don’t like Trump, the man has charisma. I’m ten times more likely to quote Trump than Biden. Like Reagan, he uses his experience in the entertainment industry.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-11-2024, 03:03 AM
Search suggestions have now been fixed.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-11-2024, 04:13 AM
(11-11-2024, 03:03 AM)Labster Wrote: Search suggestions have now been fixed.
Yay! That’s great news!
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-11-2024, 07:16 AM
(11-11-2024, 03:03 AM)Labster Wrote: Search suggestions have now been fixed.
I've updated the sitenotice.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-11-2024, 08:12 AM
Excellent news!
Meanwhile, I want to nominate Ilovecakes and Thehello for automod status. For the couple months they've been contributing, they've been doing a bang-up job and I think they deserve it.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-11-2024, 08:34 AM
Geth, your recent edits to Joe Biden's page make some interesting accusations -- ones that I haven't seen made anywhere I normally get my news. Can you please provide citations that document your claims that Biden deliberately sabotaged the Democrats' chances in the recent election?
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-11-2024, 01:16 PM
(11-11-2024, 08:34 AM)Bob Schroeck Wrote: Geth, your recent edits to Joe Biden's page make some interesting accusations -- ones that I haven't seen made anywhere I normally get my news. Can you please provide citations that document your claims that Biden deliberately sabotaged the Democrats' chances in the recent election?
I already cited one artlcie saying as much, but Pelosi is pretty explicit about how he basically hung them out to dry and did so deliberately, and it's been reported in multiple outlets both left and right leaning, added some further citations.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-11-2024, 01:31 PM
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Okay, thank you. Maybe I've just been unobservant over the last week or so. God knows I've been avoiding most political coverage.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-11-2024, 01:43 PM
I don't know about "deliberate", but the timing of the changing-horses-midstream wasn't the best.
As for Ilovecakes and Thehello , agreed on granting both Automoderated.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-11-2024, 01:55 PM
I agree that both users should be auto moderated.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-11-2024, 02:03 PM
(11-11-2024, 01:55 PM)MilkmanConspiracy Wrote: I agree that both users should be auto moderated.
Likewise.
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RE: All The Tropes Wiki Project, Part XXX
11-11-2024, 04:29 PM
Okay, I'll promote them sometime this evening if no one beats me to it. And mass-approve whatever they have in the queue.
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