The analysts at CBC appear to think that him being indicted on claiming hush-money payments were legal expenses is a bad thing, what with the investigations of tax fraud and election interference still progressing. I think they're missing something: claiming hush-money payments were legal expenses is an ethics issue. So this is Trump's ethics that are going to be on trial. Most people would be happy to have their day in court to defend their code of ethics.
(In New York, making hush-money payments is legal, but claiming that they're legal expenses is not.)
As for the possibility of his being jailed (which could happen if he makes a royal hash of his defense) interfering with his run for President in 2024:
Quote:In fact, someone physically incarcerated could run for president, and someone already has: socialist Eugene Debs won nearly a million votes in 1920 while locked up on sedition charges for opposing the First World War.
Be sure to remind everyone that "running for President while in jail" is something that a socialist did.
-- Rob Kelk
Sticks and stones can break your bones, But words can break your heart. - unknown
03-31-2023, 12:48 PM (This post was last modified: 03-31-2023, 12:53 PM by Bob Schroeck.)
Heh. I'm going to remember that.
Meanwhile, Jimmy Fallon came up with a wonderful little bit of mockery last night:
(Jump to 1:00)
-- Bob
I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh, Clark Kent, Mary Sue, DJ Croft, Skysaber. I have been
called a hundred names and will be called a thousand more before the sun grows dim and cold....
Bobby Sands was elected as an MP while on on hunger strike in prison.
Being imprisoned has never been ab impediment to winning an election.
I love the smell of rotaries in the morning. You know one time, I got to work early, before the rush hour. I walked through the empty carpark, I didn't see one bloody Prius or Golf. And that smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole carpark, smelled like.... ....speed.
Trump will never go to prison, his "poor state of health and advanced age" will spare him that, and will nicely echo his tax and bank fraud valuation method: pay low, borrow high.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "Being told to be 'open minded' about something is usually a code for 'you're not going to like this, but I want to subject you to it anyway'. Conversely, being told that you are 'closed-minded' is generally a means of asserting that 'I don't like the fact that you're proving me wrong, so I will pretend that your failure to agree with my argument is a philosophical deficiency'." - RationalWiki
He really is a Dirtling version of Zaphod Beeblebrox, isn't he?
Though that's probably insulting to Zaphod, even if he is the defining example of a figurehead of state whose greatest success is keeping attention of the media so the people who actually get things done can get on with it. That sort of requires not getting in their way himself, after all.
(03-31-2023, 04:56 PM)robkelk Wrote: Wouldn't "poor state of health and advanced age" prevent him from running for President, though? That's what the GOP said about Biden, after all.
Trump will be "too weak to go to jail" when it comes to court, but "super strong, the strongest even!" when it comes to running for office: just like his real estate evaluations - low when he's paying taxes, super-elevated when used as collateral on loans.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "Being told to be 'open minded' about something is usually a code for 'you're not going to like this, but I want to subject you to it anyway'. Conversely, being told that you are 'closed-minded' is generally a means of asserting that 'I don't like the fact that you're proving me wrong, so I will pretend that your failure to agree with my argument is a philosophical deficiency'." - RationalWiki
I want the next leak to be the "wargaming: what the Secret Service detail will do if/when DJT is sent to jail", probably authored 2015 by some forward thinking "radical leftist Marxist communist feminist trying to transsexual our youth with drag story-hour. And take our guns. And jobs." (did I miss any buzzwords?) "Inflation!" (That's gotta be all, right?)
Granted, the two-tiered justice system never thought its egg would crack like this, but here we are.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "Being told to be 'open minded' about something is usually a code for 'you're not going to like this, but I want to subject you to it anyway'. Conversely, being told that you are 'closed-minded' is generally a means of asserting that 'I don't like the fact that you're proving me wrong, so I will pretend that your failure to agree with my argument is a philosophical deficiency'." - RationalWiki
(04-16-2023, 08:38 PM)Spoilsport Wrote: ..."radical leftist Marxist communist feminist trying to transsexual our youth with drag story-hour. And take our guns. And jobs." (did I miss any buzzwords?)...
"woke"
-- Rob Kelk
Sticks and stones can break your bones, But words can break your heart. - unknown
-- Bob
I have been Roland, Beowulf, Achilles, Gilgamesh, Clark Kent, Mary Sue, DJ Croft, Skysaber. I have been
called a hundred names and will be called a thousand more before the sun grows dim and cold....
He just needs to win the next election so he can declassify everything and pardon himself.
I love the smell of rotaries in the morning. You know one time, I got to work early, before the rush hour. I walked through the empty carpark, I didn't see one bloody Prius or Golf. And that smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole carpark, smelled like.... ....speed.
With most of these cases coming up in 2024 it looks like a race against time.
Either it's the White House.
Or the Big House.
I guarantee they'll get delayed himself that either he'll be able to pardon enough, or someone can run on the "I'll pardon Trump" platform and away you go. Look around you and tell me honestly that this is the sort of world where the good guys win and Trump gets fucked.
The cunt's getting more popular the more he's indicted.
I love the smell of rotaries in the morning. You know one time, I got to work early, before the rush hour. I walked through the empty carpark, I didn't see one bloody Prius or Golf. And that smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole carpark, smelled like.... ....speed.
I'm not sure he's getting more popular as much as his hardcore followers are getting more vocal in their efforts to deny reality.
The numbers of Republican voters who dislike/hate Trump seem to be (slowly) growing, and independent voters are inclining further from him much quicker, His followers may be able to help him and his lackeys win the GOP primaries, but in terms of a general election, Trump's got even less support than in 2020. Anti-Trump Republican voters, may not go so far as to vote Democrat, but them staying home and not voting would still doom Trump's hopes of a return to the White House.
And according to some randomer on the internet, Georgia is far less likely to release people on bail than most States. One assumes he'll end up in the county jail or something in that case. With all the other criminals remanded in custody.
In a bunk.
Quote:The stolen data was then distributed to other members of the enterprise, including members in other states.
Across State Lines? Does that bring in the G-Men?
That's 4 seperate sets of charges, 4 seperate cases to fight and - at least one - has to end in a conviction. Don't get my hopes up reality.
I love the smell of rotaries in the morning. You know one time, I got to work early, before the rush hour. I walked through the empty carpark, I didn't see one bloody Prius or Golf. And that smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole carpark, smelled like.... ....speed.
(08-15-2023, 01:08 PM)Dartz Wrote: Across State Lines? Does that bring in the G-Men?
Not wanted in this case. Convictions of Georgia laws cannot be pardoned by the President of the USA.
Convictions in Georgia also can't be pardoned by the Georgia Governor. There's a review committee before a pardon, and I believe you have to serve a certain minimum time.
(08-15-2023, 01:08 PM)Dartz Wrote: Across State Lines? Does that bring in the G-Men?
(08-15-2023, 05:20 PM)robkelk Wrote: Not wanted in this case. Convictions of Georgia laws cannot be pardoned by the President of the USA.
Yes, it can bring in the federal government. Remember that aside some specific exceptions, federal charges are basically 'did something illegal to federal properties or agents, or the crime crosses state lines'. Should a crime happen in multiple states, multiple states might have their own, unique, charges to add to the matter but it might devolve into an utter shitfest of a jurisdiction dispute, but none of those charges are 'superior' to anybody else's.
And that includes the federal charges. We might see the federal government bring its own charges after Trump has been convicted and sentenced in Georgia, for example.
I know that people generally consider federal charges to be 'heavier', but the reality is that is only because after a conviction in federal court, it is very rare for a state government to decide that they want to tack on their charges because it seems excessively punishing, and the federal government is generally pretty pushy about trying federal charges before state charges.
I love the smell of rotaries in the morning. You know one time, I got to work early, before the rush hour. I walked through the empty carpark, I didn't see one bloody Prius or Golf. And that smell, you know that gasoline smell, the whole carpark, smelled like.... ....speed.
... could he look more like a cartoon villain IRL if he tried? The scowl, the frown lines, the eyebrows! I'd hardly expect a carefree grin given the occasion (and the subject) but this is verging on dark comedy.
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